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  1. #191
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Maybe the "going rate"... Is bad??? /think
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  2. #192
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    Tiraelina's Avatar
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    Tiraelina Kyara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    .. only not. the most equivalent game sells their mounts and and cosmetic items for equal or higher prices.
    https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/fam...ld-of-warcraft

    It's not reasonable to ask for things to be on sale simply because you personally do not want to pay for them at the going rate.
    Which is where they got their prices from. Everything on there is also account wide. Sparkle pony was $25 USD as a charity item which started it, along with 1 or more that followed until they just started releasing them without the charity attached and made it the base price.

    You know what WoW also has? The Spectral Tiger, maybe if you ask nicely SE will let you buy a mount for >$1500 USD too.

    No, its perfectly reasonable to be seeking lower prices. We know why Blizzard chose their price, why did SE other than to copy the competition? Do they not feel they could increase the volume of sales or is it the same stubbornness leading to cyclic content? Steam works for a reason.
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  3. #193
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Maybe the "going rate"... Is bad??? /think
    Bad. To someone who can't afford it? sure. Bad in a sense that it's overpriced? The amount of people buying it says it's not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Which is where they got their prices from. Everything on there is also account wide. Sparkle pony was $25 USD as a charity item which started it, along with 1 or more that followed until they just started releasing them without the charity attached and made it the base price.

    You know what WoW also has? The Spectral Tiger, maybe if you ask nicely SE will let you buy a mount for >$1500 USD too.
    No, its perfectly reasonable to be seeking lower prices. We know why Blizzard chose their price, why did SE other than to copy the competition? Do they not feel they could increase the volume of sales or is it the same stubbornness leading to cyclic content? Steam works for a reason.
    I'm not sure why you're mentioning steam. Steam has sales, so does the mogstation. Seeking lower prices? sure. Claiming inflation where there is none, complaining about set prices and saying it should be lower simply because you don't wish to pay? That's entitled. The spectral tigers price is set by the players, imagine if people could sell the zentetsuken emote or the 1.0 gobbue? That would probably be just as prohibitive.

    Copy the competition? Sure that's smart, look at what the going rate is and price accordingly. How is that a surprise or a devious practice?

    It's not a conspiracy, it's not a devious plot, it's a shop you can choose to use or not on your own.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 04-25-2018 at 09:07 PM.

  4. #194
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Yea its sad though. You would think some of these items would be in an in-game event.

    Much of the items on the mogstation are priced like that because of the success of the items in the past. And will continue to be like this because people are willingly buying these items
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  5. #195
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Why does this come up any more? It's over the player base has lost. To many whales and to many "they got to make money players/supporters". Cost and amount of items will both keep going up. They have clearly have identified that a decent portion of this player base will forgive and pay for anything. 1.X was a dream that we were interacting with someone who cared. The dreams over. This is what we get and it will not get any better.
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  6. #196
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Why does this come up any more? It's over the player base has lost. To many whales and to many "they got to make money players/supporters".Cost and amount of items will both keep going up. They have clearly have identified that a decent portion of this player base will forgive and pay for anything. 1.X was a dream that we were interacting with someone who cared. The dreams over. This is what we get and it will not get any better.
    The only reasons I see why this is happening;

    Economy must be tough for some and maybe are just acting out on their emotions.

    The toxicity of trolls that just flame the fire by just adding more emotions to the fire comparing it to some other games or non logical made up answers that avoid the main issue.

    People can't use a dictionary or internet to look up the meaning of the words that have been used constantly; business , Scam , rip-off, illegal.


    I would think by now people would at a minimum understand the difference between a business and a non profit entity.
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  7. #197
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    The player base has lost because players themselves will go out of their way to attack those offering feedback. You would think those attacking are "defending" the game, but in reality those who offer feedback do so because they love the game and don't want to see it fall apart, or would simply like to see it become even more popular or improve. The majority who think the game is too micro-transaction based won't complain on the forums, they'll just slip away silently and the population will decline. Trying to silence feedback isn't defending anything.

    Some people just love having someone else to attack, but they shoot themselves in the foot really.

    Of course there are expections. "Omg SE are scamming rip offs the game is rubbish!" isn't productive discussion, but there are plenty of valid points and reasonable feedback here too.
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  8. #198
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post

    You know what WoW also has? The Spectral Tiger, maybe if you ask nicely SE will let you buy a mount for >$1500 USD too.
    For those who haven't played WoW...what is this? Is there really a mount in WoW that costs that much???
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  9. #199
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    Loki Lux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    For those who haven't played WoW...what is this? Is there really a mount in WoW that costs that much???
    There is. They used to have a card game, and some cards gave you codes for mounts or minions. the game has since been discontinued and yes you can find ebay posts (usually not realistic) for that price.
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  10. #200
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    The player base has lost because players themselves will go out of their way to attack those offering feedback. You would think those attacking are "defending" the game, but in reality those who offer feedback do so because they love the game and don't want to see it fall apart, or would simply like tosee it become even more popular or improve. The majority who think the game is too micro-transaction based won't complain on the forums, they'll just slip away silently and the population will decline. Trying to silence feedback isn't defending anything.

    Some people just love having someone else to attack, but they shoot themselves in the foot really.

    Of course there are expections. "Omg SE are scamming rip offs the game is rubbish!" isn't productive discussion, but there are plenty of valid points and reasonable feedback here too.
    There are plenty of valid points that get lost in translation, I agree with you 100%. What really kills it is that they start making very good constructive points, yet fail to make suggestions. They only focus on comparisons that really don't make a good case. Feed back is great when is given properly, with no actual suggestions is only really considered venting.
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