Whats going on with SE ?

[RiyahArp]

Eh, people overreact on ptw because many MMOs can really, really do that bad. I mean, PTW and various cash shop gameplay elements can even doom or cull a game's future; what happened to archeage and allods online are two good examples. It's something that needs to be handled with care from the devs because people have been burned badly before.

[ManuelBravo]

Eh, people overreact on ptw because many MMOs canreally, really do that bad. I mean, PTW and various cash shop gameplay elements can even doom or cull a game's future; what happened to archeage and allods online are two good examples. It's something that needs to be handled with care from the devs because people have been burned badly before.

Lets face the facts though, the only reason DLC / Cash shops became popular was do to feed back and people complaining that the game was too hard. Take jump potions is just one of may ways players have influenced cash shops. All that companies did was take advantage to make a profit. We as the community gave them that tool to begin with. We complained, they fix, not fast enough here are your options. Funny thing not many are willing to take responsibility for it. I admit I wanted more retainers, more space, more ways to by pass the endless hours of gathering. SE said ok want more space, want more retainers here is an OPTION. I said cool now it's my choice. Devs do get irritated and in reality I don't blame them.

[RiyahArp]

Oh..it's a bit more complicated than that.

PTW schemes actually are a lot harder than sub ones, not easier. Like in a PTW game endgame is usually doing, again, stuff like how we overmeld armor, but far far worse. Because when you only get a tiny portion of the base spending money on a game, you need to make them spend a lot, and the easiest way is forcing people to buy power. And then that just becomes the new normal.

I mean, if you want to see how bad it can be, This reddit thread gives a few funny examples. Like how one guy soloed another guy's entire guild in pvp. So there is cause to worry for some people, but thankfully this app is nowhere near as bad as it could be in other games. Its just people worry about slippery slopes.

[Remedi]

Eh, people overreact on ptw because many MMOs can really, really do that bad. I mean, PTW and various cash shop gameplay elements can even doom or cull a game's future; what happened to archeage and allods online are two good examples. It's something that needs to be handled with care from the devs because people have been burned badly before.

Yes but the starting situation was very different