Whats going on with SE ?

[Okamimaru]

I understand they're having space issues. I get it, you get it, we all get it. The thing is though, as consumers it isn't our problem. It's theirs.[/QUOTE]

And how SPECIFICALLY would you suggest they fix these "issues" with dropping content cycles, increasing player subs, or even further micro transactions? Are you going to donate your time and money to SE and fix their issues? Are you willing to redo the game from scratch? You know what's not SE's fault? The fact that you are not wealthy/skilled/capable of making the MMO that you really want on your own. So you come here and demand they change how they choose to run their game because you want something different from what from their side is clearly working... want a PERFECT final fantasy MMO? Maybe try pushing ideas for ff16/17/18/whatever the next mmo they try...

[Okamimaru]

final fantasy 11, final fantasy 11, OMG, final fantasy 11!

Hi there perhaps it's the Roman numerals that are confusing you... this is final fantasy 14 not final fantasy 11... you seem to be in the wrong game... sounds like you are really wanting final fantasy 11: Remake...

[RiyahArp]

I don't think you need to change the jobs fundamentally. My issue is more that you can do everything you can to advance your main combat class in a single day if you are casual, and the primary way of boosting an alt class now is to stand around half afk 80% of the time in Eureka. Content in general is pretty narrow, and the template of it hasn't changed much since HW.

[ManuelBravo]

I don't think you need to change the jobs fundamentally. My issue is more that you can do everything you can to advance your main combat class in a single day if you are casual, and the primary way of boosting an alt class now is to stand around half afk 80% of the time in Eureka. Content in general is pretty narrow, and the template of it hasn't changed much since HW.

You do realize Eureka is a different Type of leveling right? Did you even read how it works?

[Vstarstruck]

Hi there perhaps it's the Roman numerals that are confusing you... this is final fantasy 14 not final fantasy 11... you seem to be in the wrong game... sounds like you are really wanting final fantasy 11: Remake...

Look, I know you like to twist words but come on, you really missed he point of that post?

I don't think you need to change the jobs fundamentally. My issue is more that you can do everything you can to advance your main combat class in a single day if you are casual, and the primary way of boosting an alt class now is to stand around half afk 80% of the time in Eureka. Content in general is pretty narrow, and the template of it hasn't changed much since HW.

I guess it depends if it needs to or not, does ffxiv need it? who knows, I can only judge the results after such attempt is made. I am getting tried of trying to shoe horn the class role thing though. FFXIV 1.0 it worked it had a point with the concpt with the game, and it is in the game ARR and beyond why? just because 1.0 had it? I think you are missing the point of that post though, it was basically refuting the claim "I've played a bunch of different games, most as a healer. None of these games have ever done what you are saying SE has failed to do, because why on earth would you change how a class/job is supposed to work fundamentally? " other games done it, not saying FFXIV has to, but to suggest things need to be static and predictable because other games never changed fundamentals is way off, almost being a flat out lie, as reason I explained.

They have been saying that they are quitting, then 14 days for forum -.-; if you have seen their post they are always. 14 days can't come fast enough so just like many of their post they are over dramatic and kind of makes you wonder...IF they hate the game soooo much why even bother posting? Why are they still here....real reason...either hypocrisy ( we know they will be back ) or they have nothing better to do. Even logic will insult most people now a days.

Yeah I get you do not like people that are blunt and tell the truth, but you don't have to keep being on my back while making posts that have nothing to with the topic at hand, such as this one you made. Your lack of logic can be considered insulting tbh, like your misplaced concept of applying where the hypocrisy lies. Maybe you missed the point SE even stated in that slide "a complaint is twice as valuable as a complement. "People complain because they care" I care about the heath of the game so much, I am willing to put up with white knight abuse.

Your hate is SUPER misplaced.

Blame the publishers, the shareholders, and the for-more-profit mentality. Don't blame the people getting paid relative peanuts working insane hours making entertainment. They realistically don't see an extra cent from the microtransactions.

Yeah your right, it is a shame, btw your lala is cute in that art.
https://youtu.be/GeEzy3_oywk

[ManuelBravo]

Yeah I get you do not like people that are blunt and tell the truth, but you don't have to keep being on my back while making posts that have nothing to with the topic at hand, such as this one you made. Your lack of logic can be considered insulting tbh, like your misplaced concept of applying where the hypocrisy lies. Maybe you missed the point SE even stated in that slide "a complaint is twice as valuable as a complement. "People complain because they care" I care about the heath of the game so much, I am willing to put up with white knight abuse.
https://youtu.be/GeEzy3_oywk

No I respect people who are blunt and logical, I dislike over dramatic responses specially from players who claim to leave a company until they change their ways, yet comeback during free trails only to find out that not much has change and still claim to be supporters. It's plain and simple if your going to boycott a company do it with style.Do what they tell you in terms of use if you don't agree destroy your copy(ies). send thema video to prove a point. Fill out the survey on why you left that they send you and move on with your life. It's called feed back, it will not be implemented from one day to another. This unfairness that people keep seeing over micro transactions, over optional content, over things that have been cover multiple times, different threads, same BS. If anything the toxicity comes from people that can't keep it in one thread and feel special making another one. You make decent points, however your over dramatic responses, the simple fact on how you have responded in other treads proofs that you like being blunt, yet dislike it when somebody makes an observation that clashes with yours. Instead of new point you bring back past things that have been covered. So yes I do like straight forwardness, it just gets boring reading the same points over and over and over again. As for telling the truth...dude if your going to quit all out or just don't say your quitting. This is not White knight abuse, in your own words is being blunt and telling the truth. and like many other times it's the aspect of this type of business.

[Okamimaru]

Do you ever try.. to make a post.. without insulting people?

Are you talking to me or are you doing some sort of daily affirmation and accidentally typed it out?

[ManuelBravo]

Are you talking to me or are you doing some sort of daily affirmation and accidentally typed it out?

They have been saying that they are quitting, then 14 days for forum -.-; if you have seen their post they are always. 14 days can't come fast enough so just like many of their post they are over dramatic and kind of makes you wonder...IF they hate the game soooo much why even bother posting? Why are they still here....real reason...either hypocrisy ( we know they will be back ) or they have nothing better to do. Even logic will insult most people now a days.

[Okamimaru]

I don't think you need to change the jobs fundamentally. My issue is more that you can do everything you can to advance your main combat class in a single day if you are casual, and the primary way of boosting an alt class now is to stand around half afk 80% of the time in Eureka. Content in general is pretty narrow, and the template of it hasn't changed much since HW.

Eureka is for gearing not leveling...

[RiyahArp]

Eureka as it is involves everyone running around in the fate train, standing around for most of the time while 6-9 people actually kill the pop mobs, and "leveling" from the exp the fates get you, even though elemental level has nothing to do with actually getting a relic save for upgrading the weapon's final step. (because feathers won't drop if you aren't 19/20.) The leveling aspect could be stripped entirely from the game because the way you advance your relic is just fate drops and the time it takes to get them is what slows you down ultimately. Many people will have a full relic set - the +2 weapon well before they cap elemental level, and the elemental level in gameplay is useless; its just a boost to damage or resistances and effects nothing else.

Like when i thought on it before it launched, I thought we'd need to kill various elemental enemies and fill slots on a magia board in a sphere grid style action, but there's literally none of that. Most of the enemies even we kill only use one type of magia, fire. Many high level fates have fire-based enemies.Even if you didn't match elements, unless you are main tank nothing happens, because elemental level just nerfs your damage or buffs it either way as a hard gate.

edit: boosting means gearing, i thought that was obvious.