Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[XxOstiaxX]

Im not talking about the current FFXI and Crappyssea. FFXI pre-ToAU. No idea if you played that time or even at Release, but it had nothing to do with "Tank and Spank", period. Wrath and Ulduar Bosses are actually a Joke compared to Pre-ToAU FFXI Endgame and even ToAU HNM's were challenging for the most Part. Everything after that was destroying the Gameplay and the Difficulty. Where you needed Month for a Job from 1-75 before ToAU, it went worth in ToAU and you needed a couple weeks.. after Abyssea is was even more worse when it just took days.

And i never said anything about time consuming did i? Do i have to start talking about WoW and Blood Plague? Which was even worse than FFXIV Release.

Since FFXI is sooooo easy to everyone. Pics of AV-Kill, after Wall-glitch or pre WoTG, if noone cant sho me, leave it please and dont say again it was just "Tank and Spank". Actually same with PW.. First Kill took DAYS. Yeah thats some Tank and Spank.. *sarcasm off*

Are you being serious right now ? Really ? I mean Seriously!? The hardest part to 90% of HNM and Bosses in FFXI was the requirements to pop them up, and getting the man power to zerg then down while your tank holded aggro :/ Spending days and weeks gathering the items or waiting on spawns for the chance to fight a HNM or boss is not Hard! It is a TIMESINK! Timesink does not equal difficulty, it never did in EQ, why should it be so in FFXI( a FF version of EQ) ?

About AV! He was a TANK AND SPANK FIGHT! Serious question here, what part of that fight, was not a tank&spank fight ? Your tanks hold aggro your dps stand and dps him down, that was the hole fight :/

Oh and PW was a joke, that was not even a boss fight, it was simply impossible to beat at the time it was released, and plain simply a stupid encounter design from SE, and they themselves went and nerfed both him and AV afterwards :/

So yeah now please do tell me again about FFXI boss fights being harder than Mirmidon HM

[Nero]

Are you being serious right now ? Really ? I mean Seriously!? The hardest part to 90% of HNM and Bosses in FFXI was the requirements to pop them up, and getting the man power to zerg then down while your tank holded aggro :/ Spending days and weeks gathering the items or waiting on spawns for the chance to fight a HNM or boss is not Hard! It is a TIMESINK! Timesink does not equal difficulty, it never did in EQ, why should it be so in FFXI( a FF version of EQ) ?

About AV! He was a TANK AND SPANK FIGHT! Serious question here, what part of that fight, was not a tank&spank fight ? Your tanks hold aggro your dps stand and dps him down, that was the hole fight :/

Oh and PW was a joke, that was not even a boss fight, it was simply impossible to beat at the time it was released, and plain simply a stupid encounter design from SE, and they themselves went and nerfed both him and AV afterwards :/

Well.. not to sound rude, but with that Post you kind of proved me right.

1. Its Common knowledge that AV wasnt beat for a LONG Time, so if it was only Tank and Spank, how is that even possible?
2. You obviously never did HNM's, since you dont know that 90% of the Pre-ToAU HNM's were not Item-Popforced.
3. I still did not talk about Timeconsuming, since waiting for a Pop has nothing to do with the Fight itself.
4. By your logic every Fight is Tank and Spank, so basically all of the MMO's are Tank and Spank.
5. Did you ever fight AV, Jorm, Vrtra, etc? Or are you just "assuming"?

So yeah now please do tell me again about FFXI boss fights being harder than Mirmidon HM

Meh...

Phase 1:

TANK AND SPANK <--- There you go.

Phase 2:

TANK AND SPANK + Curespam

Phase 3:

TANK AND SPANK + Kiting

Phase 4:

TANK AND SPANK + Mix of the previous Phases.

So.. i guess you are right. Those fight are really not Tank and Spank. And like i said before, WoW vs. FFXI are always ridicilious Discussion, so we should Stop here and Focus on the Topic. Which is FFXIV-Powerleveling.

[XxOstiaxX]

Well.. not to sound rude, but with that Post you kind of proved me right.

1. Its Common knowledge that AV wasnt beat for a LONG Time, so if it was only Tank and Spank, how is that even possible?
2. You obviously never did HNM's, since you dont know that 90% of the Pre-ToAU HNM's were not Item-Popforced.
3. I still did not talk about Timeconsuming, since waiting for a Pop has nothing to do with the Fight itself.
4. By your logic every Fight is Tank and Spank, so basically all of the MMO's are Tank and Spank.
5. Did you ever fight AV, Jorm, Vrtra, etc? Or are you just "assuming"?

Meh...

Phase 1:

TANK AND SPANK <--- There you go.

Phase 2:

TANK AND SPANK + Curespam

Phase 3:

TANK AND SPANK + Kiting

Phase 4:

TANK AND SPANK + Mix of the previous Phases.

So.. i guess you are right. Those fight are really not Tank and Spank. And like i said before, WoW vs. FFXI are always ridicilious Discussion, so we should Stop here and Focus on the Topic. Which is FFXIV-Powerleveling.

Lmao! Why do you try so hard ? i mean it does not changes the truth :/

AV- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIRMTPMPko
Jorm- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related
Vrtra- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related

All tank and spank all of them :/

Oh and mirmiron phase 2 is untankable as is phase 3 :/ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzBdfDo6xY

[Kiote]

Lmao! Why do you try so hard ? i mean it does not changes the truth :/

AV- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIRMTPMPko
Jorm- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related
Vrtra- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related

All tank and spank all of them :/

Oh and mirmiron phase 2 is untankable as is phase 3 :/ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzBdfDo6xY

LMAO all of those videos are Post Abseeya.. FFXI hasn't even been a game in three years. You can't site the changes that killed a game as proof of how it existed through its life cycle. Pathetic

[Nero]

Lmao! Why do you try so hard ? i mean it does not changes the truth :/

AV- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgIRMTPMPko
Jorm- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related
Vrtra- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftkk-...eature=related

All tank and spank all of them :/

Oh and mirmiron phase 2 is untankable as is phase 3 :/ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzBdfDo6xY

Can you read? PLEASE, CAN YOU LEARN TO READ?

PRE TOAU.. Showing me Stuff from 2010 when FFXI and in fact AV, was allready nerfed just shows that you didnt read anything i wrote. PRE-TOAU.. 2010 is POST-Abyssea. I said AV WITHOUT WALL-Glitch and before it was nerfed which was namely in WoTG. Seriously some people have a hard time with understanding a simple sentence, it looks like.

Showing me Stuff from Things which got nerfed doesnt proof anything of your Statement. I was always talking about Pre-ToAU. Whats wrong with you that you think any of those Vids is PRE-ToAU? you are just showing Fights in a nerfed Point and didnt get the Point that FFXI was far away from beeing like that in the first Years.