Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Sephrick]

Thats a far cry from a single day in XIV.

It still only took an average of 48 hours of actual exping to get there. The rest of it was tying to build parties, exp loss on death, walking for hours to find a decent camp and a pleathora of other annoying and blatant time sinks.

And it only takes a "day" in XIV if you have a very dedicated group willing to pour a majority of that day into it.

But my point in mentioning how short the grind to the first cap in XI was to illustrate that, similar to XI, it wouldn't have taken that long for a dedicated group. A player could have capped in XI then in under a week if they really wanted to.

But to gain the kind of "absurd" exp that people report takes already having a class at 50 capable of AoEing. At that point a player should know how to play any role in the game.

[darkstarpoet1]

It still only took an average of 48 hours of actual exping to get there. The rest of it was tying to build parties, exp loss on death, walking for hours to find a decent camp and a pleathora of other annoying and blatant time sinks.

And it only takes a "day" in XIV if you have a very dedicated group willing to pour a majority of that day into it.

But my point in mentioning how short the grind to the first cap in XI was to illustrate that, similar to XI, it wouldn't have taken that long for a dedicated group. A player could have capped in XI then in under a week if they really wanted to.

But to gain the kind of "absurd" exp that people report takes already having a class at 50 capable of AoEing. At that point a player should know how to play any role in the game.

in xi people had to really try hard to get to 50 in a month. in xiv they can go afk for about 8 hours and get there. you are comparing things that are complete opposites.

[lordvr]

Producing a whole lot of new content for low levels in a game where everyone's capping everything just seems like a bad idea lol.

[Sephrick]

in xi people had to really try hard to get to 50 in a month. in xiv they can go afk for about 8 hours and get there. you are comparing things that are complete opposites.

No, they didn't have to try hard. They had to stand in place and auto-attack things to death, just like XIV. The hardest part was finding a tank and healer.

[Rowyne]

Ahhhh yes how could I forget! WoW peaked at 11 million subscribers because of the MASSIVE TIME CONSUMING BORING GRIND.

How stupid of me.

Oh wait, they made it accessible to people from all ranges, be it they had all day to play or just an hour.

This is apples and oranges. WoW progresses you through story-driven questing and instances, so there is no conventional old-school grinding in that game.

Yoshi-P says he wants to give us leveling options, but I still don't see them. Leveling content outside of leves and grinding is sadly anemic. Where are the quests? If we had more to do at lower and mid levels, maybe people wouldn't be so focused on trying to race to the top.

Besides, it now takes longer to get to level cap in WoW than it does in FFXIV. What a joke. Never thought I'd see the day.

[CrystalWeapon]

in xi people had to really try hard to get to 50 in a month. in xiv they can go afk for about 8 hours and get there. you are comparing things that are complete opposites.

If you were trying hard and it took you a month to get to 50, then you were doing something wrong. My record while trying hard was 2 and a half weeks to get from lv 1~75. This was pre-abyssea and pre-level sync smn burning. I was bored out of my fucking mind and hid the fact that I had a rdm from every endgame event ls I went to after that.

I agree that this game is way too fast, but I at least don't get burnt out on any of my jobs duo'ing / solo'ing (leves)/ partying. I'm fairly sure that they are going to remove the drop party form of pl'ing they have now, but I doubt they are going to gimp the exp rates for fighting. My money is on us not hearing anything about it till the changes are made.

[Erariel]

I'm too lazy to read the whole reps, can any quote me the Devs rep ?

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[Rowyne]

I'm too lazy to read the whole reps, can any quote me the Devs rep ?

So... someone should do the work for you that you're too lazy to do yourself?

Ironic to find this in a PL thread.

[Zozor]

Whatever the case - experience points in general need to be reduced, or the amount needed to level up needs to be increased. It's not just PLing that's the problem. A balanced party can get 150k per hour as well without a PL. In the early days we were lucky to be getting between 15k and 20k per hour.

[Majidah]

They also needs to add crap to do. In XI you had to walk to jeuno at 18-20, your chocobo quest at 20, RSE at 20ish-30ish and you were pretty home bound to jeuno while leveling in quifm. Then at 30 you had kazham and you were stuck in that island for a while...

In XIV its basically port to whatever, kill stuff, return to town. Until you are 50. You are pretty useless if you aren't 50.