A "Good Community" doesn't excuse content from being unfun

[Aronys]

Yes! Good! I do hope the devs continue the eureka content in this way. I dont want it nerfed to the ground like the rest of the game has been. Also, just because YOU dont like FATE grinding doesnt mean EVERYONE doesnt like fate grinding. There are still FATE trains in the Overworld and I still see active Hunt trains so why arent you complaining about that too?

Are you seriously defending FATEs? Seriously? Where did you FATE defenders even come from all of a sudden? Before Eureka, everyone was united in the opinion that FATEs suck and that SE really needs to try something new. Where is this sudden shift coming from? O.o

[Skivvy]

Are you seriously defending FATEs? Seriously? Where did you FATE defenders even come from all of a sudden? Before Eureka, everyone was united in the opinion that FATEs suck and that SE really needs to try something new. Where is this sudden shift coming from? O.o

These fates give you top level tomes and the chance at some glams, minions, etc. That right there makes them loads better.

[Aronys]

These fates give you top level tomes and the chance at some glams, minions, etc. That right there makes them loads better.

There are FATEs in the overworld that have these as well. Yet, nobody does those anymore, not since ARR.

[Skivvy]

There are FATEs in the overworld that have these as well. Yet, nobody does those anymore, not since ARR.

I'm not aware of any FATEs that give top-tier tomes. Which are these?

[Aronys]

I'm not aware of any FATEs that give top-tier tomes. Which are these?

You didn't say just tomes, you also said minions and glams. Ignoring half of your own sentence to argue, good job white knight.

[MageBlack]

These fates give you top level tomes and the chance at some glams, minions, etc. That right there makes them loads better.

Exactly. That and they arent dead in 20seconds and the rewards arent limited by Capps and Lockouts. NM's are sightly different than FATE's. If you really wanted to you could call dungeon bosses FATE's

Something else that might help is having a claim system, but then there would be a whole different set of complaints.

[ManuelBravo]

Are you seriously defending FATEs? Seriously? Where did you FATE defenders even come from all of a sudden? Before Eureka, everyone was united in the opinion that FATEs suck and that SE really needs to try something new. Where is this sudden shift coming from? O.o

Fates are actually pretty fun when the rewards are worth it. It's also a good way to kill time and give a boost of XP. It's an optional source and people who just think something sucks is just sad. Everyone one pays a subscription so everyone has the right to enjoy OPTIONAL content. While I'm NOT a big fan of fates I can at least understand that it is an option. If people do Fate grinding is up to them. While yes it can feel pointless at times it can be a necessary evil.l If anything is players who can't understand a simple concept are the ones that suck.

[Skivvy]

You didn't say just tomes, you also said minions and glams. Ignoring half of your own sentence to argue, good job white knight.

LOL. If the best retort you can come up with is that I'm a White Knight, then I'm done with you after this post. I'm level 4 in Eureka. Does that scream someone who has been living in there since it launched? Have you checked my other posts to see my thoughts on the matter? No?

Since I have to spell it out for you, end-game tomes drive a lot of people to do things. You are severely underestimating the importance of adding these to FATEs with your initial comment. Add in new glams and minions, and you're going to have a decent crowd for awhile.

[MageBlack]

Yes, glam and drops are incentive but they are a one off, once people have it there's no need to go back. Tomes are the gift that keeps on giving. It drove people to do PvP for quite a long time even though it wasn't content they may have done otherwise.