A "Good Community" doesn't excuse content from being unfun

[Vivi_Bushido]

I like a challenge but I dont find Savage fun for such terrible rewards that are designed JUST to draw the process out.

I'm so incredibly sorry you don't find NM grinding fun. My heart aches for you. But what if I told you there are other ways to do this content except the cookie cutter hive mind mentality ruined it. Eureka could have 3 or 4 different trains at various points in the map spawning NM's and everyone would feel more involved, get exp in the process, and still kill the occasional NM but the PLAYERS ruined it. Everyone just wants the quickest route with the least amount of effort.

Also, FATE grinding is worse than Dungeon grinding because.... Up till now its just been run down hallway, kill boss, repeat. if you are really wanting to just reduce content like that...

I agree with what you're saying but at least FATEs reduce most of the useless trash that leads up to the boss and gives you the boss right away. At least I wanted to say that until I realized you have to kill 90 of the same monster just to make the boss appear, so now it just feels they removed the hallway.

[MageBlack]

I agree with what you're saying but at least FATEs reduce most of the useless trash that leads up to the boss and gives you the boss right away. At least I wanted to say that until I realized you have to kill 90 of the same monster just to make the boss appear, so now it just feels they removed the hallway.

Agreed, its like the hallway was removed. But this is the community bypassing the intended way to play. Like my 3-4 different parties option. Then at least while you killed the 90 mobs you would be gaining exp. Then need to incentivize this style of play. Also would like other ways of popping the NM's other than simply mass murder. but this should come in patches and upgrades to the content. For a first foray into this content its a good start. The caveat is they do need to have regular updates and additions to the content. The next Isle will need to have some differences to how it works, it cant just be a copy paste of Anemos with new skins.

I would like to see them bring back 1.0's Black Shroud as a procedurally generated instance, each one would have a new layout.