The general player base needs to improve

[fumofu]

Like you said it's not a single player game. When you are doing it wrong you affect 3-7-23 other players. Don't play a mmo if you're planning to be a burden and if it is not your goal then try to become better or stay away from group content.

And why should i stay from group content? I feel I do my job good enough at content I'm doing, thing is that i'm just not obsessed with optimisation and perfection. You know why? Because when you try to be perfect - you fail a lot, cos each little mistake is fail. Omg, I pressed cd 0.2sec too late! DPS loss! Oh no, boss turned and i screwed my positional. DPS loss! /o\ Hey, there's so many ways things can go wrong or not according to plan, so if you are all about perfection - you are bound to be constantly disappointed and frustrated.

So I think it's best not to push myself hard, just try to play at acceptable level and it's all good. And no, i don't treat regular dungeons as content who is meant to prepare you for harder content.... No, they are quite enjoyable, until party joins some elitist who complains that tank and healer should dps more...

[weedlord]

So I think it's best not to push myself hard

i'm quite sure there's a happy medium between obsessing with optimization and perfection, and simply trying to do better and be better to make a more enjoyable experience for those around you and, by proxy, yourself, since as you said it becomes less enjoyable when some "elitist" joins and complains. they're literally just asking you to press more buttons, it's not really a huge request

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

And why should i stay from group content? I feel I do my job good enough at content I'm doing, thing is that i'm just not obsessed with optimisation and perfection. You know why? Because when you try to be perfect - you fail a lot, cos each little mistake is fail. Omg, I pressed cd 0.2sec too late! DPS loss! Oh no, boss turned and i screwed my positional. DPS loss! /o\ Hey, there's so many ways things can go wrong or not according to plan, so if you are all about perfection - you are bound to be constantly disappointed and frustrated.

So I think it's best not to push myself hard, just try to play at acceptable level and it's all good. And no, i don't treat regular dungeons as content who is meant to prepare you for harder content.... No, they are quite enjoyable, until party joins some elitist who complains that tank and healer should dps more...

I want to chime in on this one.

I don't consider myself one of the "best" Machinists. I am however quite competent at it because I've always made the effort to be good at it, even when people said the job was bad. Naturally, I give my all in Savage content, but that doesn't mean dungeons are just an excuse to coast along in easy mode. Hell, if anything, dungeons are where I quietly make my little adjustments and optimizations that I can then perhaps take into harder content. I find myself regularly practicing on dummies in idle moments now - the habit formed before I even knew it. And PvP's taught me to think on my feet and build stronger reaction time; dodging telegraphed, scripted attacks are easy after you've learned how to do it when you're NOT expecting it.

I'm not going to say that you shouldn't take it easy or not push yourself hard, but playing at an acceptable level will only ever be just that; acceptable. When the content or perhaps something in the moment happens that calls for more than that, your acceptable play won't be enough to see you through it. It's hardly about perfection or always doing it right; it's about being capable of performing to the best of your ability, even in the worst conditions or situations. Aiming for par won't accomplish that.

[ToasterMan]

We've had this player base complaining about how people DON'T read guides and watch videos and now we've got complaining about how people relay on guides too much!

Come on guys make up your minds......