Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

[RiyahArp]

Quote fests aside, let me be blunt in saying it:

If you want PvP rewards, you better learn to PvP.

Hell, that's life.

The rewards in question aren't for people learning to pvp, they are for 100 people in an entire data center.

How about we only give rewards for Savage raids to the first 12 8 man parties to clear it, per data center? Everyone else just gets tomes. That's how stupid the Feast exclusive rewards were. Maybe 300 people per data center have a legitmate shot at competing.

[MoroMurasaki]

The rewards in question aren't for people learning to pvp, they are for 100 people in an entire data center.

100 people who spent what was likely a ridiculous about of time and energy on PvP to earn them.

[DreadRabbit]

Now this I don't need to poke fun at, very much on board with you.

Awesome We can join the moogle pom army then.

And on your point about communication: I agree with that too actually. I think it's important to speak up if you're not comfortable with what a party member is doing, but beyond that you can tell pretty quickly what your party mates want/don't want.

[RiyahArp]

100 people who spent what was likely a ridiculous about of time and energy on PvP to earn them.

Same as world first clears of savage. But there's only so many people who have a realistic shot at that, and the same is proving true for Feast. This is killer if you want the mode actually populated, not so much if you want a 2 week season and then people pvp/raid log.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

...at this point we're just talking in circles with each other. No one stopped you from learning how to PvP. No one stopped you from learning how to PvP after learning they would get rewards like that. You can pick up PvP at any time and practice it in case they bring certain rewards back or give better rewards tomorrow. Or should we tell the raiding community they no longer get their exclusive minions because everyone else doesn't want to raid? Tell crafters they learned their profession for nothing because everyone can just earn the minions and furniture they make without having to do anything with those jobs?
Again: agree to disagree.

... raid minions and mounts aren't exclusive. That's the whole point. Anyone can go into A4S right now, unsync and absolutely destroy the fight to get their Gobwalker. It's laughably easy. You can't, however, go into PvP and work towards the Hell Hound. Your crafter analogy makes no sense. Every minion they make can be sold, thus isn't exclusive. Honestly, I don't think you know what exclusive means. At least not in the context insinuated.

100 people who spent what was likely a ridiculous about of time and energy on PvP to earn them.

See, I would agree if Savage mounts only dropped if you unsynced the fights. In fact, one of the reasons no mount/minion dropped from Ultimate is due to it being "unfair" for casual collectors. But they'll do exclusive PvP ones.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The rewards in question aren't for people learning to pvp, they are for 100 people in an entire data center.

How about we only give rewards for Savage raids to the first 12 8 man parties to clear it, per data center? Everyone else just gets tomes. That's how stupid the Feast exclusive rewards were. Maybe 300 people per data center have a legitmate shot at competing.

[Shurrikhan]

The rewards in question aren't for people learning to pvp, they are for 100 people in an entire data center.

How about we only give rewards for Savage raids to the first 12 8 man parties to clear it, per data center? Everyone else just gets tomes. That's how stupid the Feast exclusive rewards were. Maybe 300 people per data center have a legitmate shot at competing.

PvP will never provide static benchmarks for anything that cannot be won by grinding alone.

I can see your complaint in this regard with a Season's rewards being unwinnable after the season has ended, whereas PvE rewards can be gathered at any time, but PvP has always been a percentage game, not a number check, graded on a curve if you will.

[VanilleFang]

big pulls

Yeah, I actually had a convo in another thread about this. I don't think it's a bad thing to mention or ask but it's completely unnecessary. (The person I was having the conversation with is under the impression that it's a detriment to the party to ask, which I think is ridiculous.)

But yeah, not necessary at all since big pulls are the standard for most people.

[Narthice]

none of this will happen, but whatever here we go.

1. I hate elemental-shards/crystal/clusters for crafting, I wish they would just remove them, let me craft by getting the needed materials and that should be all

2. We should be able to glamour whatever gear we want into whatever class as long as we are high level enough to wear said gear.

3. I don't really like the holy trinity (DPS-TNK-HLR) and the Team jump-rope that comes with it. Let me chug Potions to heal myself, and use phoenix feathers on dead party members in combat. That most fights, the boss just stands in whatever place the tank is and will barely move. the boss should retaliate and move around and not be scripted, there should be randomness to the fight

4. Positionals and combo timing. The boss is taking a break? well screw your rotation

5. I think underwater combat could be fun, and aerial combat

6. Jump should be implemented to fights, maybe for dodging, but battle arenas are mostly flat and circular so far. I kinda like in Coil turn 1 boss, there were elevated tiles. But since then they have stayed kinda dull =/ and barely straying far off.
Perhaps adding aerial combos too?

7. Those who use the argument, "X shouldn't be implemented because its not realistic" what part of final FANTASY are we not getting? If they really want to add something they will find a way to explain it... or not "tis magic yo" seems to work for diving mounts.

8. We constantly hear the excuses that something takes too much data, yet there is so much useless stuff that could be removed or altered to work without. Stuff like Belts, we don't see them anymore so what is the point. Materia, don't really need it, this way we get rid of the Spiritbond value on gear, one less thing to worry about. HQ materials and items, would cut down on so many items, just keep the NQ as the standard. Gear durability its just an inconvenience.

alright that's it I guess, don't kill me D:

[Shurrikhan]

none of this will happen, but whatever here we go.

1. I hate elemental-shards/crystal/clusters for crafting, I wish they would just remove them, let me craft by getting the needed materials and that should be all

No complaints there. Though, it would mean a huge upsurge in crafting that is at present unbalanced for, and due balancing may necessarily end up unevenly distributed at this point.

2. We should be able to glamour whatever gear we want into whatever class as long as we are high level enough to wear said gear.

I kind of like being able to tell that the guy in a robe is a caster, but I can otherwise get behind this.

3. I don't really like the holy trinity (DPS-TNK-HLR) and the Team jump-rope that comes with it. Let me chug Potions to heal myself, and use phoenix feathers on dead party members in combat. That most fights, the boss just stands in whatever place the tank is and will barely move. the boss should retaliate and move around and not be scripted, there should be randomness to the fight

Generally, agreed. However, I'd rather not see fights turned into expensive consumable dumps, let alone become optimal as such. I'd rather composition-based scaling and how that might cause the fight to stray from perfect scripting allow for these things, such that victor goes to the skilled, not just to the rich/grinders/hoarders.

5. I think underwater combat could be fun, and aerial combat

I don't even want to think about how badly SE would likely mess up each, but yeah, I was really hoping we'd see a "done right" version in time for Heavensward, so that flying mounts could actually amount to more than, essentially, just a removal of any and all topography.

6. Jump should be implemented to fights, maybe for dodging, but battle arenas are mostly flat and circular so far. I kinda like in Coil turn 1 boss, there were elevated tiles. But since then they have stayed kinda dull =/ and barely straying far off.
Perhaps adding aerial combos too?

Turn 1 and the original Turn 5 arenas are still my favorites. The latter was still a circular arena, but at least it felt like an appropriate place to fight whom we were fighting.

7. Those who use the argument, "X shouldn't be implemented because its not realistic" what part of final FANTASY are we not getting? If they really want to add something they will fins a way to explain it... or not "tis magic yo" seems to work for diving mounts.

I feel like a lot of people use that word when they really mean "(not) cohesive". Or at least I want to hope so.

8. We constantly hear the excuses that something takes too much data, yet there is so much useless stuff that could be removed or altered to work without. Stuff like Belts, we don't see them anymore so what is the point. Materia, don't really need it, this way we get rid of the Spiritbond value on gear, one less thing to worry about. HQ materials and items, would cut down on so many items, just keep the NQ as the standard. Gear durability its just an inconvenience.

This so much.