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  1. #41
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    You forgot
    Boil2 : deal 10% of the current target hp as additional damage. Target above your level takes an extra 50% damage.
    Where is this info? Broil II is just a damaging spell. Unless your poking fun at this thread, XD.

    Also, I like the whole "resummon Lily" idea, and I can see how it might be OP. But if Dissipation is reworked to act like Bahamut, maybe we can get Lily in her full form, like we see in the SCH LB. It would be a cool effect to have her hovering above us, making it like she is giving us her magic and increasing our healing.

    Also, does anyone else say Lily when referring to her as a whole and not an aspect... anyone... anyone at all... T.T
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Where is this info? Broil II is just a damaging spell. Unless your poking fun at this thread, XD.

    Also, I like the whole "resummon Lily" idea, and I can see how it might be OP. But if Dissipation is reworked to act like Bahamut, maybe we can get Lily in her full form, like we see in the SCH LB. It would be a cool effect to have her hovering above us, making it like she is giving us her magic and increasing our healing.

    Also, does anyone else say Lily when referring to her as a whole and not an aspect... anyone... anyone at all... T.T
    Oh no, I call her Lily, too, when just referring to her as our fairy! Especially now that we have Lilac, and know that all fairies were individuals with names

    Apparently, Lily is two separate fairies in certain languages, though.
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  3. #43
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    Prou Dhon
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I just want to use the aetherpact charges by myself,not the cluncky lv 70 hot that makes the fairy inmobile and useless.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Where is this info? Broil II is just a damaging spell. Unless your poking fun at this thread, XD.

    Also, I like the whole "resummon Lily" idea, and I can see how it might be OP. But if Dissipation is reworked to act like Bahamut, maybe we can get Lily in her full form, like we see in the SCH LB. It would be a cool effect to have her hovering above us, making it like she is giving us her magic and increasing our healing.

    Also, does anyone else say Lily when referring to her as a whole and not an aspect... anyone... anyone at all... T.T
    I'm effectively poking fun at the thread, since these request are silly

    SCH are in a very good position and beside making Selene less garbage they don't need miuch if anything.

    The only thing that annoys me with SCH is that crit mechanic on shield.
    I just find it too unreliable and not even fun. I also find Emergency tactic to lack some whoomph, (unless you crit but that's SCH issue, it's always "it's normal if you don't crit it's op if you do"
    Emergency Tactic makes Adlo a 600 potency heal for 1500mp, comparatively WHM has 700 potency for 1200 mp and AST 650+65/98 potency on 1000mp

    The worst part is that SCH needs a 30sec cd whereas AST and WHM can have it free or with a guaranteed crit (the second one is very nice imo)

    I'd like Emergency tactic to get some sort of rework because I just don't find it any good. Giving the next SCH a guaranteed crit would surely make it too strong for it's CD, but the heal "without" crit is just too weak for the mp (and it doesn't feel all that much like an emergency)
    Perhaps also halving the mp cost would do the trick.

    I'm not a pro SCH so perhaps it's more of a lack of practice that I don't find any good use of that skill.
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 02-20-2018 at 07:00 PM.

  5. #45
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    Every time selene uses embrace she deals
    19 potency around here(sch potency) eso every time she uses embrace she heals for 75 potency on target (sch potency)
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  6. #46
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    Luka Larkspur
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    The only change SCH needs is to perhaps get the fairy AI looked at so they can be a bit more responsive to manual commands.... this entire list is ludicrous lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    A healers job is to dps and keep the party alive while doing so, you got the wrong idea about healers.

  7. #47
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    snip.
    We can't compare Emergency Tactics adlo + mana cost with ast/whm Cure II version.
    Scholar has sustained free heal with the fairy Embrace at his side. Any heal he does or not, there'll always be Embrace which can also crit.
    Emergency Tactics was introduced more for succor to give Scholar a 2nd way to make a pure heal in aoe (cause that was his weak point).
    Since indom is on 30s, they can't spam it, and if anything happens to their co-healer, as least, they have that "emergency" tool.
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    But a normal succor will do the same, Since the shields will absorb next raid damages Inc. Exept some mecanics like White hole, but it's too bad to have a skill needed for only one type of mecanic ( seen in very few bosses also ).

    I kinda like the guaranteed crit idea, but we might make the CD longer. Like 45sec. ( but it has to work for DPS purpose as well ! Hehehehe)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Apparently, Lily is two separate fairies in certain languages, though.
    Really, in other languages, even though everythgin is supposed to be streamlined, huh.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Really, in other languages, even though everythgin is supposed to be streamlined, huh.
    Yeah, it was from an old lore thread, but I think the German version, at least, never mentions Lily being a singular entity at all. It's just Eos being more proactive in cutscenes. I think it was understood that they were more like Egis/Carbuncles than a companion creature that they eventually became.

    Lilac being as she was, I doubt any retcons were needed in later content. Eos being the one to always show up in cutscenes even if you had Selene up may have been part of the confusion.
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