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  1. #1
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    LachleinStratos's Avatar
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    Asuran Zala
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70

    SCH 4.3 changes please

    1. Sacred soil
    Remove aetherflow gauge cost and cost mp instead


    2. Deployment tactics
    Cooldown reduced from 120 seconds to 60 seconds


    3. Whispering dawn
    Cooldown reduced from 60 seconds to 40 seconds


    4. Dissipation
    (Current)
    Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack. Also increases healing magic potency by 20% for 30 seconds. Summon or Summon ll cannot be executed while under the effect of Dissipation.

    (Change)
    Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack (green coloured aetherflow stack that is entirely separate to your current purple stack).
    Also increases healing magic potency by 20% for 30 seconds. Once all the green coloured aetherflow stack is consumed, your pet automatically return to your side.
    Summon or Summon ll cannont be executed while under the effect of Dissipation.

    *The green coloured aetherflow stack will appear above your purple HUD.
    *Green aetherflow stacks will be consumed first when using spells that require
    aetherflow. Cycles back to purple once all green aetherflow stacks are used up.


    5. Selene - Silent dusk
    (Change) Everytime Selene successfully heals a target with embrace, all enemies within 15 yalm of the healed target receive 120 potency damage.


    6. Fey wind
    becomes passive ability and increase from 3% to 5%
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    Last edited by LachleinStratos; 01-31-2018 at 10:38 PM.

  2. #2
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    PerrinTaveren's Avatar
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    Estarossa Avendesora
    World
    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    1. I am fine with Sacred Soil tbh. I would rather use my mp spamming miasma 2 instead of sacred soil. And it is only used in ultima attacks mostly. I barely use it in dungeons, unless tank is bad.
    2. Deployment tactics 60 sec will make sch op, deploying crit shield every min is insane.
    3. Whispering dawn lasts 30 sec. Do you want regen all the time? Then what's the point of fey union or for example, whm regen?
    4. Again 6 stacks is too much. 3 stacks in 45 sec is already enough, i agree dissipation needs a poke though.
    5. Again 120 potency dmg is higher than smn tribind. We already have an aoe miasma with a nice potency and dots. Silent dusk needs rework but not like that.
    6. Passive ability? %5 would be nice but it is still a constant buff to party every min that lasts 30 sec.

    It appears you want sch to fly to the moon. Tbh, i am happy with the sch right now except for couple of things but its heals aren't a problem.
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  3. #3
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Character
    Toki Tsuchimi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I agree with Sacred Soil, its already on a 30s CD. I guess they could keep it on Aetherflow if the made the Succor proc higher, but as of right now making it oGCD sounds better.

    I wanna say yes to DT but I see where it could be OP. Maybe 90s, split the difference.

    Whispering Dawn is one of the few "perfect" skills, why do you want to change it.

    Dissipation either needs a complete overhaul or just to resummon Lily. Personally, I still say it should be Scholar's version of Enkindle; we need to see Lily in her full form more, XD.

    Silent Dusk is meh, good in theory, bad in execution. Selene is a support pet, why not a Direct Hit buff of 2% for 30s or so, call it Fey Resolve, maybe.

    Fey Wind is fine for me

    I wouldn't mind a slight CD reduction for Fey Caress. Maybe to 40, but 30 would be ideal. Feels like when eve I use it I need it again 10s later, T.T
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  4. #4
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Character
    Winter Gem
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Lev. 1 Fey Caress
    Ability- 25 Sec Recast
    Remove one detrimental status effect from a single party member.
    Additional Effect: Restores HP. Cure Potency 200

    Lev. 20 Clamoring Dusk
    Spell - 2 Sec Cast/ 60 Sec Recast
    Restore HP to all party members within 20 yalms.
    Cure Potency 300.

    Lev. 40 Fey Wind
    Ability - 60 Sec Recast
    Reduce both Weapon and Spell Cast/Recast Time and Auto Attack delay by 2% for 60 seconds.


    A single Target Cleanse with a small touch of HP would make Selene so much more useful. She could be used in low level dungeons reliably and have slightly more impact with single target healing since the Cleanse could be used purely for its HP recovery between Embraces. Rouse would be effective for both pets due to Clamouring Dusk without stepping over Eos better HP recovery over time. Fey Wind would be a .5% buff increase but the continuous uptime would help to set the Scholar apart from the more powerful shortlived buffs from Astro.
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  5. #5
    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
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    Why change Fey Caress to target a player and add a heal. In that regard it becomes similar to Silent Dusk.

    Truthfully, I don't think Selene needs more heals, Embrace is enough, she needs more support skills, to solidify her as the support pet. Fey Caress is a good skill just it could use a shorter CD.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Character
    Ea Sin
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    ... the Succor proc ...
    Can someone tell me where I can get info on this? I noticed this proc but can't find anything in our traits or spells. Must've missed something.
    NVM I'm an idiot.
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  7. #7
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    Tsurayu's Avatar
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    Character
    Yuki Furostomi
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    All of those suggestions are just way too OP. Healers are like the one set of classes that are actually well balanced.

    Sacred Soil is just fine where it is, unless you are DPSing too haphazardly or your party is just getting hit by multiple mechanics, there is no reason you shouldn't have the necessary Aetherflow stacks to pop Sacred Soil whenever you need. Deployment tactics is also good where it is to be able to Adlo shield the party every 60 seconds? Kiss healer balance goodbye. Same with Whispering Dawn, plus it fits nicely with Rouse at it's current CD, shortening it would be a bit of a pain. I wouldn't mind a change to Dissipation, but I believe yours is too lenient. You should be penalized for using it by not immediately having your fairy return. That said, I do wish the rewards were a bit greater for that sacrifice. I... don't even know what to say about a damaging Silent Dusk. Call me set in my ways, butt Fairies should not being doing damage directly or indirectly. I suppose I could see a 2% increase to Fey Wind, but I'd rather just see a rework of Selene to make her more support oriented overall.
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  8. #8
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    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    I'd change succor to be a slightly faster cast time. Can be annoying trying to get the shields up before a raid wide hit goes out.

    Maybe extend shadow flares duration again.

    And add an auto resummon to dissipation and make the healing potency buff affect everything. Including lustrate and indomnobility.

    I'd completely revamp the fairy system to make it use the aetherpact gauge at all levels as I've said in other threads.
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  9. #9
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    NO

    Stop wanting scholar to be a god.
    Learn how to play it instead.
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Sure. In an unrelated change, WHM should have Stone IV automatically generate 3 lilies every time you use it. PI will heal everyone in range based on lilies instead of confessions, and will no longer have a cooldown.

    Healer balance is actually good right now. Can we try to not break that please?
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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