Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Coratanni]

I ran it everyday all weekend with different classes and level. The doom and gloom of people in here hasnt translated in game as far as I have seen. Wait times are the same, experience is good, and the poetics are nice for my relic items.

While some of you will stop running it, I will continue participating.

[Vstarstruck]

I ran it everyday all weekend with different classes and level. The doom and gloom of people in here hasnt translated in game as far as I have seen. Wait times are the same, experience is good, and the poetics are nice for my relic items.

While some of you will stop running it, I will continue participating.

have fun with your inefficient rate of poetics and exp i guess? I guess you are not a DPS, cus that is not true for that.

Ill be funny to me if Tanks stop becoming instant for this though

[Alien_Gamer]

have fun with your inefficient rate of poetics and exp i guess? I guess you are not a DPS, cus that is not true for that.

Ill be funny to me if Tanks stop becoming instant for this though

I've been queueing for it daily as a dps and there's been no difference in queue times. So nope, still waiting for the never ending queue people predicted.

[Iscah]

Good 'ol times of the darklight! Fights were pretty interesting, 'tho.

I get the sense that it must have been - and I assume we're missing out on some fight dialogue now because we've steamrolled over to the next section of the fight before they've finished their script?

In the last few seconds of the Ultima Weapon fight, I gather that it was beginning to cast Ultima again because Hydaelyn says she cannot shield you a second time - but it's dead immediately after that. I'm guessing it was meant to be a rush then to defeat it before the spell wiped you all out.

I've also never quite understood what was going on when the primal essences get removed from the Weapon. The whole thing is over in seconds now - did we originally have to fight them for longer?

Also I went exploring in the Castrum yesterday after everyone left, to try to improve my terrible sense of direction there, and realised there are all those cannons arranged on the path leading up to the train depot. I guess it was originally designed that everyone would man the cannons because the enemies were too tough to take on with normal abilities?

We need to bring that back especial now you cant skip CS anymore, would love to see all those who "claimed" to help out newbs would like to run it again. :x

That would change everything in a very different way. People wouldn't have been using it for an easy speed-run in the first place; fights wouldn't take less time than the cutscene leading into them; and people might be more inclined to wait for the cutscene-watcher because they actually *need* that extra team member.

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I've tested the DPS queue a couple of times recently - 7:00pm Saturday evening and 9:00pm Monday night (GMT+11 on a server that has a lot of GMT+8 people). I signed up as DPS for just long enough to get my number in the queue, then dropped out. Both times I was #6 with an average wait time of 12 minutes.

Queuing back in as tank, I *did* have to wait - evidently the only tank in the queue - and got a partner in about two minutes each time. Although one tank promptly left when we got the Praetorium, and we didn't get another until the fight with Nero, so about 10-15 minutes between tanks queuing there I guess. Average times are average. (And I got to experience being the one doing that massive pull down the ramp! Haven't done that before because I'm usually happier to stand back and let the other guy do it, and suddenly there *wasn't* another guy... so, nerve-wracking but also pretty cool and I think I got it right.)

Other than that one person that dropped out, everyone who I've talked to in the roulette seems to have just accepted the changes - obviously the ones who are really unhappy aren't going to be there in the first place, but when we've got people who weren't previously aware of the change and ask why it's not letting them skip, they seem to be understanding of the reason.

I've had some fun conversations too. Everything from game lore to what flavoured popcorn we've brought with us.

[Vstarstruck]

I've been queueing for it daily as a dps and there's been no difference in queue times. So nope, still waiting for the never ending queue people predicted.

I asked someone on your dc to queue for it.
It started with a 16 people wait, est more then 30 mins.

30 mins later it droped down to 6
then:
https://i.gyazo.com/5b36164391adb767...bc2e1eb8b9.png
sorry queues are def longer then before for DPS

With a 50 min queue time (as of last update ) and a 30-50 min df run, you get more poetics and exp spaming PotD, and that does not require a daily bonus to beat MSQ's progress with one.

Edit: popped @ 54 mins
https://i.gyazo.com/fbe509021746805c...eeef821ac9.png
sometime just after this

[XiXiQ]

have fun with your inefficient rate of poetics and exp i guess?

400 poe and 4 mill exp for 45 minutes is efficient enough for me.... (prae at lvl 67-68)

[Coratanni]

have fun with your inefficient rate of poetics and exp i guess? I guess you are not a DPS, cus that is not true for that.

Ill be funny to me if Tanks stop becoming instant for this though

Perhaps you didnt read what I said. I ran it with different classes. Let me broaden my comment. I went as a Warrior, a Bard an as an Astrologian. The Queue times were the same for me as they were before when I leveled my other main's classes to 70(i have 18 level 70's if you don't count both arcanist jobs for each). I've leveled ALOT over the last 3 years.

Chill it with the doom and gloom. Most predictions in life that are that way, will prove to be false. I can promise you that.

[Alleo]

Perhaps you didnt read what I said. I ran it with different classes. Let me broaden my comment. I went as a Warrior, a Bard an as an Astrologian.

So two out of the three runs where with jobs that barely have any problems getting into stuff anyway. Maybe you got lucky with Bard and it was on a good time, maybe we are all just too negative about it or not..at the end SE already decided that the reward is not enough. Why would they increase the reward if people are fine with it and running it like before? Well for me it seems more that their data does show less interest than before and that people might not feel like the reward is good enough.

[Vstarstruck]

Perhaps you didnt read what I said. I ran it with different classes. Let me broaden my comment. I went as a Warrior, a Bard an as an Astrologian. The Queue times were the same for me as they were before when I leveled my other main's classes to 70(i have 18 level 70's if you don't count both arcanist jobs for each). I've leveled ALOT over the last 3 years.

Chill it with the doom and gloom. Most predictions in life that are that way, will prove to be false. I can promise you that.

You are either lying, or lose track of time easy. Some people care about efficiency, and how their time is spent. It is clear you do not. That is fine, but do not go acting like everyone shouldn't care how their time is spent.

If you are playing for 3 years and do not have everything at 70 by now, it is clear you are not in this for efficiency, again that is ok, but you shouldn't be speaking like everyone has your mindset. (for the record I also know people that been playing less then 3 years and has everything at 70, all DoW, DoM, DoL, DoH) Also the queue times do prove my point, more people care about efficiency then those that do not, thus high queue times for dps.

Development should not be making changes that give players no choice like this, making thee SC unskippable is a huge joke. (it is even a bigger joke of a change when you have no control over the speed in undersized/premade and in the inn, also confuses me why all the white knights for this change do not comment on these issues)

Also let us not forget an important part of one of my posts:
"It started with more then 30 min wait with a ticket number of 16, 30 mins later it went down to 6"
So this shows how many people are really queueing for it. This was not happening before the change. If you call me "doom and gloom" I am going to cal you blind, blind to the effect this is having.