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    Time for me to weigh in.


    These changes that we are getting today reflect a much deeper problem than "meta" or BLM issues, they reflect that the developer team is almost entirely out of sync with the playerbase's view for the game. WAR got the overhaul that literally no one asked for (WARs only wanted a small single target damage increase and slightly less clunky beast gauge), while DRK (which has been problematic since 4.0 proper) received virtually nothing. And now MNK, which by and large was already doing almost as much DAMAGE as SAM (which is to say nothing of its playability which everyone did in fact complain about and I can relate to that) is getting a pretty significant buff, particularly in the form of faster-built GL3 and benefiting from its own Brotherhood.

    It is apparent that some kind of class-correspondence with leading/trusted is in order to even out this issue. All player "requests and ideas" should not be blindly implemented, but the disconnect lies where the developer team's "vision" directly clashes with the playerbase's idea of how jobs function based on their crunching. Side note: Remember this moment whenever someone says "they never overhaul classes mid-expansion, so don't bother suggesting it". This is proof right here that they absolutely do.



    This is painfully obvious in that SE does not understand the value of uptime vs "clipping" on casters (or BLM, at least), getting finally to the BLM changes. The Aetherial Manipulation change is welcome and desirable (particularly if Sigmascape is very movement intensive), but without a proc with which to weave it, you are still back to square one with the damage loss. The increased proc timer is helpful, but without actually increasing the procs obtained, chances to weave are still very small, and clipping is basically the only option. This is where the damage is lost.


    Some 100 pages back I predicted that SE would do the foolish thing and just toss 20 potency back on Fire IV and call it a day, and here we are, living it. Meanwhile, other jobs (WAR currently, MCH previously, even SMN) get complete overhauls. I suppose this is our reward (punishment?) for being "YoshiP's pet class", so please kindly remind anyone of this the next time they try to say "BLM will never be bad".




    Dear Square Enix,

    At least consider giving Fire IV access to the Firestarter trait so we can Firestart and weave when necessary (and potentially not need to cast Fire I at level flipping 70 like scrubs). Further, get the hell RID of Transpose at level 70 (for crying out loud) and give us the Freeze change that we've been suggesting (BEGGING for) for four and a half years. Even with your AOE nerfs to SMN, it will still be the strongest AOE damage by a large margin, and if your goal is still "raw DPS no utility", then BLM deserves to reflect that with AOE damage as well. Period.

    "But a proper buff to Freeze will make BLM aoe damage broken!" I can hear you say. And to that all I have to say is....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
    being "YoshiP's pet class", so please kindly remind anyone of this the next time they try to say "BLM will never be bad".


    Reality check: Blm isn't bad and it never was.

    Its just not the best one atm and that is what really pisses you off – two absolutely different points. sry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post


    Reality check: Blm isn't bad and it never was.

    Its just not the best one atm and that is what really pisses you off – two absolutely different points. sry.
    As far as I'm concerned, they define the class as "raw damage no utility" and yet it does less total damage than jobs that are "high damage some utility" such as SMN (and more than likely now MNK), both single target and AOE. See also: bad. Plain and simple.

    I wouldn't be angry about it "not being the best" if they weren't trying to tell me that it's supposed to be "the best". That shouldn't be complicated, I don't think. More simply put, it's the fact that it does not function as advertised that is the MOST legitimate frustration, proc numbers/synergy/movement capability/clipping aside. If you can't understand this, then I don't know what to tell you, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
    I wouldn't be angry about it "not being the best" if they weren't trying to tell me that it's supposed to be "the best". That shouldn't be complicated, I don't think. If you can't understand this, then I don't know what to tell you, to be honest.
    we are not talking about utility and not about comparison - we talk about Blm being bad at all and that actually isn't true. that part that I quoted is just not true, thats what im all about. so: "If you can't understand this, then I don't know what to tell you –cause to be honest you totally missed the point. See also: bad. Plain and simple."
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