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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    I'm à bit surprised that people keep talking about BLM ban from pf. Since sb I coudl count on 1h the number of time BLM was actively banned from a group, and those were usually Learning in group month after the boss release (like BLM on shin when most people are 335+ilv), which was laughable.

    Is it that omnipresent in the US or I've just been lucky for 2 patches
    It's not omnipresent, but it's present enough to be noticeable. It isn't that people are saying "NO black mages", it's more that when they want a caster, they'll usually slot for Summoner or Red mage instead.
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    Mak Roe
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    From my experience I'd say the majority of groups are fine to join as a BLM but you do come across somewhat frequently groups where you cant join because the dps slots available are literally any dps job but BLM or they want one caster only (which is usually filled by a RDM/SMN). Or its the "meta" jobs only for speed / farm runs etc. For the most part the effects of said exclusion is that it just adds time to whatever activity you want to do. If you wait around for a while you can usually find a group.

    On top of that you can get a few snide remarks from joining some groups where people are disappointed that its a blm who joined but those are fairly rare.

    I dont come across many PF BLM's so I cant say the reputation is deserved or not but it is what it is.
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    Last edited by Makrar; 02-03-2018 at 03:22 AM.

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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    All one had to do is look at the pf groups sb launch (even now as well) and you still see no slots for blm in groups.
    This is not all mind you but i would say a fair amount.
    The smn "nerf" and blm "buff" has not seemed to changed things at all
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    Harold Saxon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    All one had to do is look at the pf groups sb launch (even now as well) and you still see no slots for blm in groups.
    This is not all mind you but i would say a fair amount.
    The smn "nerf" and blm "buff" has not seemed to changed things at all
    Just take a look at recruitment discords too.
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    anyone compile a BiS list yet?
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    Harold Saxon
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    anyone compile a BiS list yet?
    Without an actual sim, the BiS won't be known for sure. Its also composition and fight dependent.

    Besides, its WAY too early to think about BiS. Work on learning fights and upgrading your ilevel where you can - prioritising melds on either Vit > Crit > SS or Vit > SS > Crit. I'm going to be doing the latter.
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    not bis, but at one point had 2085 spellspeed without food (Byakko weapon) ...and it felt great! (even with that amount could do a full rota with foul)..., felt like, like what blm are suposed to feel like..

    but as usal, SE will castrate us and make sure our SS drops to the ca. mid 1.8k max 1.95k with food again (instead of giving us the best or near best SS feeling we can get..)
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    Jace Ossura
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    I think you can hit 2200 spellspeed without compromising your stats too hard now, which will go a fair way into a high sustained output in most scenarios.
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I think you can hit 2200 spellspeed without compromising your stats too hard now, which will go a fair way into a high sustained output in most scenarios.
    From Ariyala, I think that if you overdo your Spell Speed gear and get literally everything with spell speed and make up for the lack of Direct Hit with Materia, you get like

    2152 SpS, 1347 Direct Hit, 1350 Crit, and 1043 Determination.

    Not sure how much this'd look for actual practice, but it's at least good for stability in rotation.
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    Clown Conductor
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    So we should be looking towards 2200 spell speed then focusing on other stats? Byakko's weapon gives spell speed which is nice. The belt and I think 3 accessories for the prototypes give spell speed the body is a bit questionable the crafted version gives spell speed so does the prototype AND the new totem body piece gives it. So just getting the totem body next week while getting the prototype legs for more spellspeed.
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    Last edited by Bernkastelx; 02-03-2018 at 11:12 AM.

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