Tanks and super pulls

[winsock]

It's a partnership between healers and tanks. If one can't hold up their side of the partnership than it won't work. [snip] I've personally healed through pulls where the tank was basically a fish out of water.

I agree it is a partnership, but you've got to take it a step further:
How does the tank asking this question better the partnership? I dont believe it does.

Suppose a tank asks a healer if large pulls are okay, one of the following may happen:
A) The healer says "yes" knowing that the dungeon is easy enough to heal through even if the tank is a "fish out of water"
B) The healer says "yes" assuming the tank knows their fundamentals
C) The healer says "no" because they are not confident in the tank
D) The healer says "no" because they themselves are inexperienced

Now consider the above points from the perspective of a tank:
A) The question provides no value in this scenario. The outcome will be the same.
B) The question provides no value in this scenario if the tank knows their fundamentals.
C) The question provides a negative value in this scenario if the tank knows their fundamentals.
D) This healer realistically doesnt know what the hps checks will actually be like, so it's not a good idea to have them make the call. In addition, this healer is likely able to spam cure II at a minimum / can be easily mentored into an acceptable level of hps.

Perhaps there are some scenarios that i've missed, but i dont see the value here.
If I know that I know how to handle a large pull, there is no reason for me to ask as far as I can tell.

[Wintersandman]

D) This healer realistically doesnt know what the hps checks will actually be like, so it's not a good idea to have them make the call. In addition, this healer is likely able to spam cure II at a minimum / can be easily mentored into an acceptable level of hps.

Or the healer is just flat out under geared for the content and thus can't keep the tank up. Cure II spam only goes so far. So does mana, if the healer can barely keep up the tank with Cure II spam and burn through their mana the super pull was pointless as you will be waiting for mana to refresh in between pulls.

[winsock]

Or the healer is just flat out under geared for the content and thus can't keep the tank up. Cure II spam only goes so far. So does mana, if the healer can barely keep up the tank with Cure II spam and burn through their mana the super pull was pointless as you will be waiting for mana to refresh in between pulls.

I can see the healer's gear and mp, so i dont need to ask them about that.
If they cant keep the tank alive w/ cure II spam, it's probably the tank's fault for not using appropriate cooldowns or pulling too much (although, in some rarer cases the dps would be to blame)

MP isnt normally an issue. The cool part about large pulls is that the healer can stay out of combat while traveling. you dont need to wait in between. The travel time of the pull + their out of combat MP restores it, so you are typically okay long as they dont do something silly like regen during the pull. Also, while the rate of healing needed is higher on large pulls, the total amount they actually need to heal during a larger pull is typically significantly less than the same number of mobs spread over a series of smaller pulls.

Communication is a good thing, but it's not required to clear dungeons. It's just weird to discourage communication all together.

Again, no qualms with communication in general. My issue is with that specific question. It can cause a variety of issues and provides no real benefit.

[Wintersandman]

MP isnt normally an issue. The cool part about large pulls is that the healer can stay out of combat while traveling. you dont need to wait in between. The travel time of the pull + their out of combat MP restores it, so you are typically okay long as they dont do something silly like regen during the pull. Also, while the rate of healing needed is higher on large pulls, the total amount they actually need to heal during a larger pull is typically significantly less than the same number of mobs spread over a series of smaller pulls.

It doesn't work that way sometimes sadly because the healer sometimes has to heal the tank during the pull. Also you pay attention to Healer's MP/Gear. Not everyone does and frankly if the healer doesn't feel confident in their skills then don't force the issue by just doing what you want.

[VanilleFang]

snip.

You don't find the question has value, which is fine. If you don't want to ask you don't have to. All I was saying is that it's a courtesy and to assume it will more likely than not turn out bad is a very strange mind set. That's the only point I was really trying to make. Communication is a good thing, but it's not required to clear dungeons. It's just weird to discourage communication all together.