4.2 Housing Update

[rhosaria]

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a lot of players are blind to see that logic. They make excuses like I'm a house designer or all the houses remind me of irl stuff. in reality they are indeed being greedy hoarders. Atm my fc is rank 1 on our server, yet we cannot get a large because none are available. and at least 80 percent (being generous here) of the large houses are dead content. 0/4 online 0/1 online (troll house description), empty house with nothing in it or in the outside ect. ect. and to top that off theres players who own entire wards or multiple houses like a few individuals ik. and to a recent comment about saying a player can only have 8 houses cuz only 8 alts. no...some people buy multiple accounts. that means 16 larges for 1 person. not 8 larges. its ridiculous

[Alien_Gamer]

a lot of players are blind to see that logic. They make excuses like I'm a house designer or all the houses remind me of irl stuff. in reality they are indeed being greedy hoarders.

People don't need excuses to own more than one house. The game was explicitly designed to treat each character on the account as separate and the only limitations are that a character can't own more than one house or be the master of more than one FC (thus potentially having an FC house too).

Atm my fc is rank 1 on our server, yet we cannot get a large because none are available.

Your FC ranking has no bearing on anything, including housing. Neither does it mean you are more entitled to anything in the game because of it.

and at least 80 percent (being generous here) of the large houses are dead content. 0/4 online 0/1 online (troll house description), empty house with nothing in it or in the outside

What players chose to do or not do with their house is not your concern. If the house were truly dead and unused the system will reclaim it when the timer is reactivated. The more likely scenario is those players are playing at a different time than you. Either way, its not your concern how many players in that house are playing at once.

and to top that off theres players who own entire wards or multiple houses like a few individuals ik. and to a recent comment about saying a player can only have 8 houses cuz only 8 alts. no...some people buy multiple accounts. that means 16 larges for 1 person. not 8 larges. its ridiculous

If a player actually is paying for more than one account then I'd say they are even more entitled to having more houses than you are. They are literally paying for that privilege. If a player works their butt off to afford multiple large houses across alts or accounts then they are allowed to have them. If you want a large then save up and buy it in 4.2.

[Elamys]

What players chose to do or not do with their house is not your concern. If the house were truly dead and unused the system will reclaim it when the timer is reactivated. The more likely scenario is those players are playing at a different time than you. Either way, its not your concern how many players in that house are playing at once.

literally there are people who buy houses and do NOTHING with them. it's not a matter of playing at a different time. all they do is go in once in a while to reset the timer. since i don't work a regular shift, i play every day at rotating times, and i'm at my house 8 times out of 10 crafting outside. in 6 months time the owner of the mansion behind me has never once made an appearance, never done anything with his house - it sits completely empty. doesn't even have an aetheryte. he is not the only one.

If a player actually is paying for more than one account then I'd say they are even more entitled to having more houses than you are. They are literally paying for that privilege. If a player works their butt off to afford multiple large houses across alts or accounts then they are allowed to have them. If you want a large then save up and buy it in 4.2.

People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.

[AriesMouse]

People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.

Considering how easy it is for omni-crafters to make gil, it's not all that surprising for them to start spending it on more than one home, and chances are, most of them didn't buy that gil. The people that buy gil are the people that don't have the easy means to make it in the first place, more often than not.

Also keep in mind, many that have more than one home, bought it while their server was sitting on MANY open houses, all of which at the lowest possible price since they were not being bought.

I do 100% agree with the top half of your post though. The fact that there are so many houses just sitting around collecting dust, that the auto-demo doesn't tag (because it gives a warning e-mail that gets those people to log on and run inside once a month, and never more), is frustrating. With housing being such an incredibly finite resource, they need to do something more to keep people from just sitting on houses and not actively using them.

[QueenSophie]

Gotta love all these people who are so worried about what everyone else is doing and cant focus on themselves and what they need to do. He has a house and doesnt do this and doesnt do that. Ok, so when you finally get houses like everyone feels like they are so entiled to, lets all hover around them on their server and make sure they do everything that we would do with the house, or guess what , they should lose it. I joke.

To the ppl that think anyone with alot of gil mustve used RMT? really....? I know 2 people who have made 1-2 billion in 9 months or less and have done it all by crafting, retainers and content, no house flipping, no rmt, and no selling clears. 200 mil buyout for large is greed? please, thats a week of time for your average seasoned player. Cant win. Adding plots doesnt make people satisfied, but they dont wanna spend the gil either. To me, quit complaining about housing, you really are out of your league.

[Elamys]

To the ppl that think anyone with alot of gil mustve used RMT? really....? I know 2 people who have made 1-2 billion in 9 months or less and have done it all by crafting, retainers and content, no house flipping, no rmt, and no selling clears. 200 mil buyout for large is greed? please, thats a week of time for your average seasoned player. Cant win. Adding plots doesnt make people satisfied, but they dont wanna spend the gil either. To me, quit complaining about housing, you really are out of your league.

Adding more plots doesn't satisfy people because it doesn't solve the problem. If they wanted owning a house to be a matter of prestige, they shouldn't have made it by arbitrarily limiting the number of plots available, but rather by making it way more expensive than the average player could achieve with average play, or including some other requirement."there just aren't a lot of them" doesn't make it prestigious to own a house. It just means you had the better internet connection the majority of the time.

Why am I seen as a "better player" for owning a house when literally the only reason I got it and someone else didn't was because of timing? I didn't work any harder than others did to get their house, in fact, I may have worked less hard because I was lucky enough to get it from someone transferring off. It's really embarrassing to me the other house owners who honestly believe that they are somehow better than a large majority of the playerbase because they have a house.

Buying from a house flipper doesn't satisfy people because it is against the TOS, which has been stated multiple times, and yes 200 million for a large is greedy lol. Keep in mind the person paying you that still has to buy the plot again afterwards.

Also, no, not everyone who has a lot of gil RMTs. I (had) a lot of gil before, I didn't RMT. But when someone buys up a bunch of house plots all at once in a short amount of time it becomes pretty suspect. What world do you live in where the "average" player will get 200 million gil in a week. Lol.

Also, re, they want owning a house to be prestigious: that's fine, it's obvious that was their intention. But if that's what they want to do, they need to do things to make gardening INCLUDING crossbreeding, chocobo stables, and FC airships accessible to all, regardless of if you own a house or not. Because those are parts of actual gameplay that they can't access for whatever dumb reasons.

[Alleo]

Gotta love all these people who are so worried about what everyone else is doing and cant focus on themselves and what they need to do. He has a house and doesnt do this and doesnt do that. Ok, so when you finally get houses like everyone feels like they are so entiled to, lets all hover around them on their server and make sure they do everything that we would do with the house, or guess what , they should lose it. I joke.

To the ppl that think anyone with alot of gil mustve used RMT? really....? I know 2 people who have made 1-2 billion in 9 months or less and have done it all by crafting, retainers and content, no house flipping, no rmt, and no selling clears. 200 mil buyout for large is greed? please, thats a week of time for your average seasoned player. Cant win. Adding plots doesnt make people satisfied, but they dont wanna spend the gil either. To me, quit complaining about housing, you really are out of your league.

Like Elamys wrote adding just more plots wont solve the problem especially if we dont have a restriction about the numbers of houses that one account can own. People dont want to spend gil on flippers because this will just give those greedy flippers even more of a reason to buy houses just for selling. And yes 200 mil for a large one is greed. Yoshida himself stated that selling a house for huge profit is against the rules and 200 mil Gil would be 400% more than the original price..(and lets not forget that they have to pay the original price too). Are you trying to argue that its fine even though the boss himself stated that its wrong?

Not everyone that buys for such huge prices uses RMT but there will be people that do that. And lets not forget that someone linked a website where a japanese player even tried to sell a house for real money too. This selling for huge prices is wrong! So people dont want to support such a wrong system. And lets be real..even if everyone that would want to own a house would be fine with paying a flipper for it..there would still not be enough houses for those..so yes even then the problem still exist.

If SE wants this to stay a limited source then they should stop putting FC content behind it (budget and time for only a small amount of people) because that will only benefit a small number of FCs and leave the rest out of this. And they should stop putting out so many housing items..imo its bad that we get more and more of those items and yet most will never be able to use them because not every FC has a house (thus no FC room), and apartments are still way too low on a lot of servers.

Honestly sometimes I question if people are arguing so much against it because some of them (not all!) are flippers or bought a house that way and dont just want to feel bad..

[And no I have a house and yet I still find this system bad..]

[Genpai]

It is greed, especially when you buy the house only to flip it later. No other way around it. So no, not out of any league at all here. So if you don't want to hear about housing complaints. Sod off. Because there is an issue with it. Pure and simple.