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  1. #111
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    Kittypryde Kujata
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    I have a few friends who really wanted to get into housing. They ended up buying a cottage and got sort of overwhelmed when they tried to design it, especially when they find how much Gil they need to furnish it, so they let it go auto demolish. I really think alot of players THINK they want or need a house, then find out later on that it's not what they thought.
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  2. #112
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    Katya, I just looked up your FC, character info. How much Gil do you guys have saved up for a house? Did you know that in the last 2 months, there have been 12 large houses for sale on our server? Ranging from 80-200m. You have 500fc members. Even if each member only chipped in a half mil, you would be living in your dream Shirogane plot 7/16/30 like last month. If my gimped ass with only three lv 70 crafting jobs can make 400m , then I'm sure you can get the large of your dreams. Just gotta bust your butt and hustle. FYI
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  3. #113
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    Gen Quickpaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittypryde View Post
    Katya, I just looked up your FC, character info. How much Gil do you guys have saved up for a house? Did you know that in the last 2 months, there have been 12 large houses for sale on our server? Ranging from 80-200m. You have 500fc members. Even if each member only chipped in a half mil, you would be living in your dream Shirogane plot 7/16/30 like last month. If my gimped ass with only three lv 70 crafting jobs can make 400m , then I'm sure you can get the large of your dreams. Just gotta bust your butt and hustle. FYI
    Or maybe one just doesn't want to add gil to greedy houseflippers coffers. Not sure how the one you're aiming at is feeling 'bout it but myself? I'd prefer not to be part of the problem.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittypryde View Post
    Did you know that in the last 2 months, there have been 12 large houses for sale on our server?
    Selling a house for a big profit is against the rules (word of Yoshida himself) so selling a house for 200m should fall under that rule. Also its not a safe transfer. You dont pay the money and get the house. You have to pay the seller in a lot of transactions since Gil transfer has a limit and then you should hope that the seller is not a black sheep or you get unlucky and someone snatches the house away from you. That is way too much a risk for something that expensive and like Genpai said not everyone wants to help the greedy flippers out.

    Normally a mansion costs 50 mill max. I would hope that we get a solution where everyone has to pay that price and not have to pay four times the amount to get the mansion.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #115
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    A large mist empty plot runs up to 50m. Add a Shirogane castle skin which is 30m and furnishings. That's easy 100m. I don't see anything wrong with buying an FC house from an FC who is leaving servers or something. I don't think that's a greedy house flippers. We have had alot of players jump servers. I don't mind donating to their server transfer?
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  6. #116
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    Yes, It is a greedy house flipper. If they ask for sale price, then I could acknowledge that, I might even consider buying it at that point, but if you ask for 200 million gil just to .open. a slot, that is just greed.
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  7. #117
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    What players chose to do or not do with their house is not your concern. If the house were truly dead and unused the system will reclaim it when the timer is reactivated. The more likely scenario is those players are playing at a different time than you. Either way, its not your concern how many players in that house are playing at once.
    literally there are people who buy houses and do NOTHING with them. it's not a matter of playing at a different time. all they do is go in once in a while to reset the timer. since i don't work a regular shift, i play every day at rotating times, and i'm at my house 8 times out of 10 crafting outside. in 6 months time the owner of the mansion behind me has never once made an appearance, never done anything with his house - it sits completely empty. doesn't even have an aetheryte. he is not the only one.

    If a player actually is paying for more than one account then I'd say they are even more entitled to having more houses than you are. They are literally paying for that privilege. If a player works their butt off to afford multiple large houses across alts or accounts then they are allowed to have them. If you want a large then save up and buy it in 4.2.
    People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  8. #118
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.
    Considering how easy it is for omni-crafters to make gil, it's not all that surprising for them to start spending it on more than one home, and chances are, most of them didn't buy that gil. The people that buy gil are the people that don't have the easy means to make it in the first place, more often than not.

    Also keep in mind, many that have more than one home, bought it while their server was sitting on MANY open houses, all of which at the lowest possible price since they were not being bought.

    I do 100% agree with the top half of your post though. The fact that there are so many houses just sitting around collecting dust, that the auto-demo doesn't tag (because it gives a warning e-mail that gets those people to log on and run inside once a month, and never more), is frustrating. With housing being such an incredibly finite resource, they need to do something more to keep people from just sitting on houses and not actively using them.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittypryde View Post
    A large mist empty plot runs up to 50m. Add a Shirogane castle skin which is 30m and furnishings. That's easy 100m. I don't see anything wrong with buying an FC house from an FC who is leaving servers or something. I don't think that's a greedy house flippers. We have had alot of players jump servers. I don't mind donating to their server transfer?
    Well but that is another problem. You wrote in the other post that it should be easy for the player since they already have a big FC with a lot of members. Your solution would mean that they would have to give up their old one to buy the other one. This means that they would first give the lead to someone else in their FC and then if they bought it without any problems and got the rights to the FC then they need to invite all the other members to the new one. (And hope that they can change their name to their old one)

    But even that way a lot can go wrong. Who is to tell that they just take your gil, kick you out of the FC again and leave with the Gil? I am honestly not sure if the GM would help those that buy wholes FCs. What if you pay all the money, get the leadership but other ranks have rights too and they take all the items out of the house?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #120
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    Sophie Anime
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    Sargatanas
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    Gotta love all these people who are so worried about what everyone else is doing and cant focus on themselves and what they need to do. He has a house and doesnt do this and doesnt do that. Ok, so when you finally get houses like everyone feels like they are so entiled to, lets all hover around them on their server and make sure they do everything that we would do with the house, or guess what , they should lose it. I joke.

    To the ppl that think anyone with alot of gil mustve used RMT? really....? I know 2 people who have made 1-2 billion in 9 months or less and have done it all by crafting, retainers and content, no house flipping, no rmt, and no selling clears. 200 mil buyout for large is greed? please, thats a week of time for your average seasoned player. Cant win. Adding plots doesnt make people satisfied, but they dont wanna spend the gil either. To me, quit complaining about housing, you really are out of your league.
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