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    Live letter in 2 hour-ish! Here's hoping there's good news/sneak preview for housing!
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    Anyone happen to know if they will be removing houses from those currently already own more then one plot per server? If so RIP me.
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    Last edited by Awha; 01-19-2018 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Anyone happen to know if they will be removing houses from those currently already own more then one plot per server?
    Removing housing from a current paying customer who broke no rules at the point they purchased?

    No I think not. The restriction will be on purchase so they can't buy any more and overtime as they either give up or get demolished they'll go back into the system.
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    They seriously need to boost the membership requirement for owning FC housing.

    As it stands, it sounds like nothing is keeping somebody from forming a FC using signatures from three of someone's alts, then purchasing a house that way, effectively circumventing the housing restriction. I already see multiple FCs that consist solely of a gathering bot as the leader and the main account's alts as its membership, and I'm going to be pissed if any of these guys get housing.

    I think eight members would be a more reasonable number.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-19-2018 at 10:27 PM.

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    I am really happy that they did not decide to use a lottery system.

    Now my thoughts about the changes:

    Negative one first: Its just bad imo that they restrict the release to FC first. This way there is only a really really small chance that you can earn a middle or big house as a personal character. Why not make it so that everyone can buy a house with release but only the small ones can be bought by personals? So this way someone that wants a personal house can at least try to get a small one.

    Good points:
    - The change to 1 FC and 1 personal house per world and account. Finally this one rule is here.
    - They also made a change that you cant buy a FC house if one character is part of a FC with a house. This means no alts can buy it even if you are not the FC master. This makes it sound to me that they will take houses away from those that already own more because I cant see how they would use the system? Since it needs something to detect that you already are in a FC with a house so how would they know if someone owns more than one but own them before 4.2 and who is someone that tries to buy another one after 4.2? I think this is also the reason why they even create an extra website about housing..(still kinda sad that a feature needs a second site to explain it..)
    - First I thought the restriction with minimum of four players is bad since people need three other players to even start a FC. But since you cant buy another house if you are in a FC with one per world, this would mean that you either need alts with you or have someone in there that will stay. (Not sure if you always need four people with you or if this is only for the purchase..)
    - The timer is great too. Finally this should kill the selling business..

    I really like the changes. Its better than I thought and some rules are finally there that should have been there from the beginning. This is also the patch that will hopefully kill the selling business..Still bad for all those that wanted a personal house..especially the bigger ones. :/ Hopefully this is only just the first change but at least a better bandaid than normally.

    Also for all those that stated that Yoshida is fine with selling or that selling is fine...well it seems that he stated how disappointed he was that people still sold houses even after he told that its not fine. So here you have it..its against the rules..even if its no huge profit and the timer seems to be especially there to prevent selling.

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    They seriously need to boost the membership requirement for owning FC housing.

    As it stands, it sounds like nothing is keeping somebody from forming a FC using signatures from three of someone's alts, then purchasing a house that way, effectively circumventing the housing restriction.

    I think eight members would be a more reasonable number.
    I first thought it too that this would be too low but it seems that you will not be able to get another house if any character on that world is in a FC that owns a house. So anyone that will help will not stay anyway since they would not be able to own a house themselves (or be with a FC that owns a house)

    In the end this change will stop people from owning more than one FC per world so this is already a win. And we dont even know if the minimum number is only needed for buying it or if you need that amount all the time to even keep the house. If you need to keep the people than this will make it harder on them too.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 01-19-2018 at 10:27 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Futon!!!! New partition with empty space between! I got too excited that I forgot to take screenshot!
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    I'm glad we're getting real bathtubs at last, and that nice garden hedge furnishing from the contest awhile ago made it in too.
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    Because FC leadership can be transferred it's also not clear if the restriction is only on the purchase by that particular person. What if someone else was just given purchasing rights for the FC (you don't even need to be a leader to buy a house, it's a permission you can give to players in your FC). Or what about when the leader is removed for inactivity, will the ownership change skip over anyone who has a character that owns another FC or will it just transfer like it does now?
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    D'andi Leonis
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    I have 6 alts on Brynhildir, 4 of which have small houses. I would be fine with having to get rid of 3 but only if Houses automatically become shared estates with server alts. Meaning, if I can only have 1 private estate per server per service account then all the characters I posses on that server under the same service account need to have full access to that 1 private estate. That is the only way this would then be fair for everyone.
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    Loading up the live letter now, apparently this one was juicy for housing! And all my photo editing software expired... thank you for being subscription based Adobe! *grumble*
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