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    Zsolen's Avatar
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Square wanted to make it fair. What they think matters a lot more. Your solution doesn't solve anything.
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    "Fair" is highly subjective. Anything done to make something more fair is beneficial to some, and detrimental to others. I think that what I proposed was better in whole, and you disagree. You are right that neither of our opinions are going to be the basis for SE's actions. While it doesn't solve anything, I think that it would be better than the status quo.
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    I know they most likely won't but I want them to put in restrictions on the number of houses an account can own. I see no good reason a single player needs more than a personal and fc house. How much time would someone honestly spend in each of their multiple houses. Now these people say that if SE does this it will make these players with multiple house angry. But they are a minority. The number of players without a house exceeds them. And it's not like you won't have a house....you just can't continue to ruin the game for the rest of the players
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSteel View Post
    I know they most likely won't but I want them to put in restrictions on the number of houses an account can own. I see no good reason a single player needs more than a personal and fc house. How much time would someone honestly spend in each of their multiple houses. Now these people say that if SE does this it will make these players with multiple house angry. But they are a minority. The number of players without a house exceeds them. And it's not like you won't have a house....you just can't continue to ruin the game for the rest of the players
    A number of those other houses are owned by alts. If alts could share a house on the same server then SE could go to a one house per account, per server but I still think it only fair to grandfather those that already own multiple houses. The number freed by forcible means would still fall far short of meeting the current housing needs. I also suspect allowing alts to share a house would result in some multi-home owners to voluntarily abandon some of their extra houses which is a much better way to handle the situation.
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    I agree Alts should be able to share houses on the same server. And it would be nice if players would then willing give up extra houses to people that don't yet have one. However, speaking from experience players have been nothing but terrible since I've been trying to get a house. And the fact that players own several extra houses, maybe not even for an alt, is a testament to this. Really, seriously you don't need all of those houses. And then I see the posts from them on here talking about how many houses they have and SE better not take them away. It's sad they have created a lot of negativity because why? Because they need all of those houses? I hope players who own far to many houses read this, and instead of getting mad and defensive take one of your houses and give it to a player on your server who doesn't have one. You will make a friend and you made someone's many wonderful days on the game. You will be surprised how good it will make you feel
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSteel View Post
    And the fact that players own several extra houses, maybe not even for an alt, is a testament to this.
    The only way for a player to have more than one personal house is to use an alt character. This limits them to 8 personal houses per server. I'm not sure what the FC requirements are but am guessing it is the same so a single player could have a maximum of 16 houses per server. From my experience the numbers are more like a couple or few dwellings per player for the majority of multiple house owners.
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    Katya Ariandel
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSteel View Post
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    a lot of players are blind to see that logic. They make excuses like I'm a house designer or all the houses remind me of irl stuff. in reality they are indeed being greedy hoarders. Atm my fc is rank 1 on our server, yet we cannot get a large because none are available. and at least 80 percent (being generous here) of the large houses are dead content. 0/4 online 0/1 online (troll house description), empty house with nothing in it or in the outside ect. ect. and to top that off theres players who own entire wards or multiple houses like a few individuals ik. and to a recent comment about saying a player can only have 8 houses cuz only 8 alts. no...some people buy multiple accounts. that means 16 larges for 1 person. not 8 larges. its ridiculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhosaria View Post
    a lot of players are blind to see that logic. They make excuses like I'm a house designer or all the houses remind me of irl stuff. in reality they are indeed being greedy hoarders.
    People don't need excuses to own more than one house. The game was explicitly designed to treat each character on the account as separate and the only limitations are that a character can't own more than one house or be the master of more than one FC (thus potentially having an FC house too).

    Quote Originally Posted by rhosaria View Post
    Atm my fc is rank 1 on our server, yet we cannot get a large because none are available.
    Your FC ranking has no bearing on anything, including housing. Neither does it mean you are more entitled to anything in the game because of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhosaria View Post
    and at least 80 percent (being generous here) of the large houses are dead content. 0/4 online 0/1 online (troll house description), empty house with nothing in it or in the outside
    What players chose to do or not do with their house is not your concern. If the house were truly dead and unused the system will reclaim it when the timer is reactivated. The more likely scenario is those players are playing at a different time than you. Either way, its not your concern how many players in that house are playing at once.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhosaria View Post
    and to top that off theres players who own entire wards or multiple houses like a few individuals ik. and to a recent comment about saying a player can only have 8 houses cuz only 8 alts. no...some people buy multiple accounts. that means 16 larges for 1 person. not 8 larges. its ridiculous
    If a player actually is paying for more than one account then I'd say they are even more entitled to having more houses than you are. They are literally paying for that privilege. If a player works their butt off to afford multiple large houses across alts or accounts then they are allowed to have them. If you want a large then save up and buy it in 4.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    What players chose to do or not do with their house is not your concern. If the house were truly dead and unused the system will reclaim it when the timer is reactivated. The more likely scenario is those players are playing at a different time than you. Either way, its not your concern how many players in that house are playing at once.
    literally there are people who buy houses and do NOTHING with them. it's not a matter of playing at a different time. all they do is go in once in a while to reset the timer. since i don't work a regular shift, i play every day at rotating times, and i'm at my house 8 times out of 10 crafting outside. in 6 months time the owner of the mansion behind me has never once made an appearance, never done anything with his house - it sits completely empty. doesn't even have an aetheryte. he is not the only one.

    If a player actually is paying for more than one account then I'd say they are even more entitled to having more houses than you are. They are literally paying for that privilege. If a player works their butt off to afford multiple large houses across alts or accounts then they are allowed to have them. If you want a large then save up and buy it in 4.2.
    People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    People frequently buy gil and I'd wager my own house that someone owning that many houses probably did so.
    Considering how easy it is for omni-crafters to make gil, it's not all that surprising for them to start spending it on more than one home, and chances are, most of them didn't buy that gil. The people that buy gil are the people that don't have the easy means to make it in the first place, more often than not.

    Also keep in mind, many that have more than one home, bought it while their server was sitting on MANY open houses, all of which at the lowest possible price since they were not being bought.

    I do 100% agree with the top half of your post though. The fact that there are so many houses just sitting around collecting dust, that the auto-demo doesn't tag (because it gives a warning e-mail that gets those people to log on and run inside once a month, and never more), is frustrating. With housing being such an incredibly finite resource, they need to do something more to keep people from just sitting on houses and not actively using them.
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