4.2 Housing Update

[Maero]

Well some may be greedy in terms of housing but also cannot punish players who have multiple homes because SE came out with and still insist in using a horrid system.
I will take what was said in the Live letter with a grain of salt as really what i am getting out of it is they are just adding more wards again, why bother if that be the case.
Fair is very subjective and unless they are in fact doing instanced or a mix of instanced and non instanced i do not consider it will ever be fair

[PureSteel]

I don't think making players reduce the number of owned house to 1 personal and 1 FC is punishment. Just because the system isn't working as intended doesn't mean we leave it as is and not try to improve it because some feel like its punishment. You know who's really being punished? The people that can't get a house. And Yes its partly due to the SE housing system but a big cause of it is the players. Selfish players who have to many houses and then those who are willing to part with one for 300mil. If those people with 10 houses quit the game because SE puts a rule in place to at least make it a little more fair to everyone I say good reddens. More houses for the people who deserve it.

[StouterTaru]

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Punishment is a bad term to use, but that's essentially what it is to take away something legitimately gained by one person to give it to another. But that aside, my problem with all the "fairness" and "deserving" arguments is that they would benefit the person making that argument more often than not.

ie - "It's not fair that I don't have a house because I deserve it more than someone who does. Here's my suggestion to change that..."

[PureSteel]

Legitimately is a loose term when it comes to housing due to the housing black market, online real money trading, and variety of data center variables. And sure why make an argument if you don't feel strongly about it. But i'm not speaking out for only myself. I'm speaking for the majority of the player base. I pay for this game and I love it. But, like all games there are flaws. And like good game companies they work to correct them. The outcry after Shirogane housing dropped on here was loud enough for SE to move forward with changes. And I'm advocating for a system that benefits majority of players. And sure the rule of only owning 1 personal 1 FC may benefit me. It may not. There's no guarantee I will get a house. Will my chances go up..sure. But i will be under the same rules as everyone else and will only be able to own 1 personal and 1 FC. The rule isn't unreasonable.

[Claviusnex]

And the fact that players own several extra houses, maybe not even for an alt, is a testament to this.

The only way for a player to have more than one personal house is to use an alt character. This limits them to 8 personal houses per server. I'm not sure what the FC requirements are but am guessing it is the same so a single player could have a maximum of 16 houses per server. From my experience the numbers are more like a couple or few dwellings per player for the majority of multiple house owners.

[StouterTaru]

Legitimately is a loose term when it comes to housing due to the housing black market, online real money trading, and variety of data center variables.

You can make the same argument to say that all personal and FC houses should be reclaimed. You're in the realm of "Some Miqo'te have bought gil, so I'm fine with taking away gil from all of them."

The rule may not be unreasonable, but it is still punitive to some for the benefit of others. Housing reclaim is the same (and I was a proponent before they announced that, but suggested it be based on subscription.)

[Zsolen]

No one active should have their houses removed, unless they are engaging in selling for profit or rmt.

[Besame]

1 house, 1 apt and 1 FC are enough for ANY player. Make lots universal size to accommodate item amount, S/M/L of your choice and allow your alts to reside there. I am sure no one will gripe if all housing lots are the same size if item amount allowed depends on house size and many more would get a house.

[Claviusnex]

1 house, 1 apt and 1 FC are enough for ANY player. Make lots universal size to accommodate item amount, S/M/L of your choice and allow your alts to reside there. I am sure no one will gripe if all housing lots are the same size if item amount allowed depends on house size and many more would get a house.

I've thought a single size lot with the ability to upgrade or downgrade the dwelling would be good. They could tie the available land to what you could do such as a small having room for a larger garden than the other two and a large having a large workshop. The medium would be somewhere in between.

[LaylaTsarra]

1 house, 1 apt and 1 FC are enough for ANY player. Make lots universal size to accommodate item amount, S/M/L of your choice and allow your alts to reside there. I am sure no one will gripe if all housing lots are the same size if item amount allowed depends on house size and many more would get a house.

That's fine as a policy but for those who have multiples they didn't break any rules and shouldn't be penalized just because you find it convenient to change the rules after the fact. Had alts had the ability to share a mains house many with multiples wouldn't have bothered.