Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[Miste]

You say "to be fair", but what is fair about accusing someone of laziness with no evidence of laziness? You accuse of foul play based purely on evidence in your imagination.

If you assume they do not know any better, provide instructions such as using flash, etc, and they refuse to follow, you can kick them for their unwillingness to work with the party, regardless of their skill/knowledge/motivation. In other words, your kick is backed by evidence.

Do I do that? That's a pretty big assumption right there. I don't believe you've seen me in-game to know how I interact with others.

Should I explain this point by point?

1. You said you cannot tell if someone is being lazy.

2. I said yes you can due to certain factors and explained a PLD65 who had DRK70 and multiple other jobs at 70 not knowing how to use Flash. I also clarified I tried to help this PLD and they ignored me. That is all the evidence I need to see they are lazy.

3. Then you said level cannot determine dungeon experience, which is true? I never said it does, so I am assuming you don't understand or didn't read at this point.

4. Since you learn Flash at level 6, the player should be looking at and reading their tooltips when they learn abilities, if they don't understand what it means they have the responsibility to find help. When I offered advice to that PLD65 just to use Flash a couple of times in order to hold hate and they ignored me and never used it still.

What excuse is there for a PLD65 to not know what Flash, a level 6 skill, does or how to use it? <----maybe answer my question this time? What excuse is there? You don't need to do dungeons to read your job's tooltips, or use the novice hall, or ask fellow players for help, or lookup guides on your job, or get information on how your job abilities work from any source. So dungeon experience has nothing to do with it.

So you keep saying you need to try to help them, but I mentioned I did. They ignored me. Your assumption that they "don't know any better" is basically saying they lack common sense or lack intelligence to help themselves. Personally I'd prefer someone assumed I was lazy instead of assuming I was simply unintelligent. Maybe that is just my personal preference though, but lazy is way less insulting.

You do realize you keep accusing me of things right? You accused me of going on a witch hunt, yet I only posted one example? I mean...you're accusing me of going around claiming everyone is lazy because I say so.. Where is your evidence that I am doing that? Please show me....or is it only in your imagination?

I am not saying every situation is people being lazy, but it is easy to tell laziness when you get ignored when trying to help, or told to be quiet (albeit not that nicely), or the infamous "it's my sub I play how I want", those are all indicators they are just being lazy and don't want to learn.

I mean you do realize your statements are hypocritical right? Because you make assumptions that the player "doesn't know any better" which means you assume they lack common sense or intelligence. Why are you acting like my one example where I had multiple kinds of evidence to form my opinion is so wrong? What's fair about accusing people of being unintelligent or "not knowing any better"?

I mean if you can explain to me why that PLD65 with DRK70 and multiple other 70 jobs is not lazy I'll listen?

Keep in mind this was a 50+ dungeon, multiple tanks 65+, multiple jobs 70
I offered help by instructing them to use Flash so they wouldn't lose hate on 2/3 of the mobs
They knew fluent English since they made idle chit chat with one of the DPS so it was not a communication barrier, but they ignored me and stayed silent when I spoke to them and still never used Flash.

So they never attempted to take the advice or ask any questions back to me about it they just let me, the healer, keep having to struggle to heal everyone while tanking 2/3 of the mobs in the pull.

Explain to me how that PLD65 isn't lazy then if you feel I am just witch hunting (accusing someone of witch hunting just because of one example used in a forum to make a point is a new thing to me I thought witch hunt means you basically attack anyone and everyone, but hey its your accusation, not mine)