Eight Fixes to Make These Changes Good.

[Vanguard319]

Because casting magic, midgets wielding axes as large as them, cat-human hybrids and giant mounted turkeys haven't done that already! I welcome the auto-attack. Besides, when using a lightweight bow you can move slowly or even normally while knocking arrows, pausing to shoot. Wouldn't even have to pause in this game as they don't include an actual aiming element so that's fine. Every FPS like halo and all the war games you run while shooting any type of weapon, this isn't a big deal.

the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.

[Brainriot]

They should make Chocobo Mazurka a BRD spell not ARC.

[RathSkybreaker]

this reminds me of the big argument when ifrit weps came around xD

[Vanguard319]

Legolas did it in Lord of the Rings while surfing on a shield and climbing a moving Oliphaunt.

-OP, did you really need to make another thread expressing your PERSONAL OPINIONS and trying to present them as fact?

Legolas was standing on the shield in such a manner that he had a stable firing position, even though it was in motion, it was therefore plausible. Your second example is even worse, as he was braced on the back of the oliphant while, shooting, but he himself was not moving while doing so. If you are going to try to discredit my arguements, try something that can't be so easily picked apart.

[Alerith]

the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.

fan·ta·sy/ˈfantəsē/
Noun:
The faculty or activity of imagining things that are impossible or improbable.


Also, have you been to the Riverne Site in XI? (There are numerous other examples in other FF games) The laws of physics don't exactly apply as they should.

[grandm]

the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.

just wondering, what laws of physics are they going to use for a huge great big chunk of rock that will destroy the world as we know it. and after the event leave world in tact but completely redesigned. yet not killed off one of us?


then again chocobos moogles and beastmen are all that realistic

[Vanguard319]

just wondering, what laws of physics are they going to use for a huge great big chunk of rock that will destroy the world as we know it. and after the event leave world in tact but completely redesigned. yet not killed off one of us?


then again chocobos moogles and beastmen are all that realistic

I will only answer with these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_impact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater

as for chocobos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu

[MartaDemireux]

the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.

Well, just because you can't move while holding a 50lb draw doesn't mean your character can't. If they're adventuring all around and facing giant beasts, I'd hope they could move while holding a 50lb draw. Heck, if they're fighting and beating Ifrit I'd hope any of them, aside from a mage, would be able to hold a 100lb draw while moving. This also isn't a medieval setting so mentioning 150lb draws has no bearing. The game has gunblades, massive airships and aether that can teleport you anywhere in the world in the time it takes for the loading screen to pass by. It's the same argument as the characters running the entire time with no fatigue - it's not physically possible but I don't see many people volunteering to walk instead of run to a camp.

On another note, the maximum distance doesn't even require much in the name of accuracy as the monsters are generally large and only about 20 feet away. Most likely less. Maybe we should talk about the physics of their AoE arrow rain effect, what are the actual odds of any of those arrows actually landing a hit on any one monster? Forget your Earth-based physics in a make-believe world. Heck forget your Earth-based physics in any world that isn't Earth.

[Vanguard319]

I'm done arguing with you ppl, you can go educate yourselves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow (pay attention to where it says "draw weights" and "tactics", verifies everything I've been saying beyond doubt)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurve_bow#Recurve_bow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_bow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABd%C5%8D

[Alerith]

I'm done arguing with you ppl, you can go educate yourselves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow (pay attention to where it says "draw weights" and "tactics", verifies everything I've been saying beyond doubt)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurve_bow#Recurve_bow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_bow

Except you're trying to apply specific, real-world mechanics in a fantasy world which, by definition of "Fantasy", explores a world based on unrealistic and impossible situations.

The fact that you're attempting to draw parallels between the real world and the fantasy world on such a specific scale and then saying that "fantasy is doing it wrong" is completely laughable.