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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    doesn't matter, you can only stretch the threshold of what is believable so far. You can't nock, draw, hold, and shoot a bow from an unstable position (i.e. while running). an exception is mounted archery, but even then, you require a special saddle, plus several years of additional training to become proficient.
    Because casting magic, midgets wielding axes as large as them, cat-human hybrids and giant mounted turkeys haven't done that already! I welcome the auto-attack. Besides, when using a lightweight bow you can move slowly or even normally while knocking arrows, pausing to shoot. Wouldn't even have to pause in this game as they don't include an actual aiming element so that's fine. Every FPS like halo and all the war games you run while shooting any type of weapon, this isn't a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    Because casting magic, midgets wielding axes as large as them, cat-human hybrids and giant mounted turkeys haven't done that already! I welcome the auto-attack. Besides, when using a lightweight bow you can move slowly or even normally while knocking arrows, pausing to shoot. Wouldn't even have to pause in this game as they don't include an actual aiming element so that's fine. Every FPS like halo and all the war games you run while shooting any type of weapon, this isn't a big deal.
    the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.
    fan·ta·sy/ˈfantəsē/
    Noun:
    The faculty or activity of imagining things that are impossible or improbable.


    Also, have you been to the Riverne Site in XI? (There are numerous other examples in other FF games) The laws of physics don't exactly apply as they should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    the lightest modern bows for hunting deer have drawstrengths of more than FIFTY POUNDS! And medieval warbows had even higher drawstrengths (upwards of 150+ lbs). That is not something you can brush off so easily in the context of fantasy. (certain things still must obey the laws of physics) By comparison, guns are simpler to aim and fire, as you don't have to hold a ready shot while aiming. (The reason guns replaced bows on the battlefield is because while guns are more mechanically complex, they are significantly easier to use.) So yeah, it is a big deal.
    just wondering, what laws of physics are they going to use for a huge great big chunk of rock that will destroy the world as we know it. and after the event leave world in tact but completely redesigned. yet not killed off one of us?


    then again chocobos moogles and beastmen are all that realistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
    just wondering, what laws of physics are they going to use for a huge great big chunk of rock that will destroy the world as we know it. and after the event leave world in tact but completely redesigned. yet not killed off one of us?


    then again chocobos moogles and beastmen are all that realistic
    I will only answer with these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_impact
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater

    as for chocobos:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    I will only answer with these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_impact (pay attention child, to where it says "sizes and frequencies")

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater

    as for chocobos:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu

    Damn, I'm good at making you people look dumb.
    ok in a way i'm kinda glad you brought this up, after all, i know a little about this. so 65 million years ago a meteor that hit the earth killed the dinosaurs? wrong! the dust from the impact was thrown into the atmosphere which killed all the dinosaurs. first trees and plants were starved of sunlight for 6 - 10 months and they died, this led to all the big Herbivores dying. to begin with all the big Carnivores thought this was christmas. their pray dying at there feet no chase no challenge. but this was just one final present a last supper if you like. becase the dead plant eaters would not last long. and the meat eaters would be out of food and also die.

    sad story. true story. this is the real effects of a world killing impact. like the one that is going to hit our world (hmm in game i mean :P)

    anyhoo the affects of the rock to hitting our world is not going to throw up dust for a year the trees and plants wll not die. all the animals monsters and human form players will still live. the look of the world will change. but this is not real effects that you could expect if a real event changing impact was to take place.

    so i ask again. !what has this got to do with real time physics?"

    if i'm finished educating you child. then i'm done here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandm View Post
    ok in a way i'm kinda glad you brought this up, after all, i know a little about this. so 65 million years ago a meteor that hit the earth killed the dinosaurs? wrong! the dust from the impact was thrown into the atmosphere which killed all the dinosaurs. first trees and plants were starved of sunlight for 6 - 10 months and they died, this led to all the big Herbivores dying. to begin with all the big Carnivores thought this was christmas. their pray dying at there feet no chase no challenge. but this was just one final present a last supper if you like. becase the dead plant eaters would not last long. and the meat eaters would be out of food and also die.

    sad story. true story. this is the real effects of a world killing impact. like the one that is going to hit our world (hmm in game i mean :P)

    anyhoo the affects of the rock to hitting our world is not going to throw up dust for a year the trees and plants wll not die. all the animals monsters and human form players will still live. the look of the world will change. but this is not real effects that you could expect if a real event changing impact was to take place.

    so i ask again. !what has this got to do with real time physics?"

    if i'm finished educating you child. then i'm done here.
    that would be a good excuse, EXCEPT no one knows how big the meteor will be. You're already saying it will be a mass-extinction event without any proof of such, as mentioned in the urls I provided (which you clearly didn't read) even a small meteorite can have more energy than an atomic bomb, so the coming cataclysm does not have to be caused by a "planet killer" asteroid.

    I'm smarter than you, umad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    that would be a good excuse, EXCEPT no one knows how big the meteor will be. You're already saying it will be a mass-extinction event without any proof of such, as mentioned in the urls I provided (which you clearly didn't read) even a small meteorite can have more energy than an atomic bomb, so the coming cataclysm does not have to be caused by a "planet killer" asteroid.

    I'm smarter than you, umad?
    for a meteor to alter the entire worlds landscape, it would have to be frickin huge are you stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    that would be a good excuse, EXCEPT no one knows how big the meteor will be. You're already saying it will be a mass-extinction event without any proof of such, as mentioned in the urls I provided (which you clearly didn't read) even a small meteorite can have more energy than an atomic bomb, so the coming cataclysm does not have to be caused by a "planet killer" asteroid.

    I'm smarter than you, umad?
    "I'm smarter than you?" how old are you 5?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    I will only answer with these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_impact (pay attention child, to where it says "sizes and frequencies")

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_Crater

    as for chocobos:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu

    Damn, I'm good at making myself look dumb.
    ^^^ I think you typo'd and meant to say this.
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