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[Kiote]

Wow, people are seriously complaining about ranged AA for Archer?

Ranged Auto Attack mean that Archer's will have to do either a: Significantly less damage or b: significantly slower damage. Both are not worth while in exchange for no longer having the ability to shoot strategically. If they leave Archer Attacks at their current power they will be pulling hate constantly and dropping out of combat isn't really a reasonable solution for that.

[Alerith]

Ranged Auto Attack mean that Archer's will have to do either a: Significantly less damage or b: significantly slower damage. Both are not worth while in exchange for no longer having the ability to shoot strategically. If they leave Archer Attacks at their current power they will be pulling hate constantly and dropping out of combat isn't really a reasonable solution for that.

I'm sorry, but archers won't pull hate with auto-attacks alone. They simply don't shoot fast enough to justify your concerns. You're acting like their current power level is so ungodly high that making their ranged attacks automatic would break them again.

[Corrderio]

I'm sorry, but archers won't pull hate with auto-attacks alone. They simply don't shoot fast enough to justify your concerns. You're acting like their current power level is so ungodly high that making their ranged attacks automatic would break them again.

Exactly. Maybe if you go nuts and use Multishot and that other nock ability to go nuts you might pull hate. But there's no way in hell a ranged AA is going to hurt an archer.

[Kiote]

Exactly. Maybe if you go nuts and use Multishot and that other nock ability to go nuts you might pull hate. But there's no way in hell a ranged AA is going to hurt an archer.

Apparently, you have failed to notice, you no longer have those abilities on archer. They cannot be implemented in an Auto Attack system. If you try to nock extra arrows they will be fired off automatically.

[Vanguard319]

I'm sorry, but archers won't pull hate with auto-attacks alone. They simply don't shoot fast enough to justify your concerns. You're acting like their current power level is so ungodly high that making their ranged attacks automatic would break them again.

not only that, arc was meant to have high damage, considering we get more emnity-reducing skills/traits than every other class. At present, arc doesn't have enough of a damage curve to warrant ever using them, much less even setting them up, if you think being a bard will will help, that will kill our damage even more, seeing how we seem to be destined to become 14's version of 11's red mage: different name, still a glorified battery charger and nothing else.

[Buddhsie]

Ranged Auto Attack mean that Archer's will have to do either a: Significantly less damage or b: significantly slower damage. Both are not worth while in exchange for no longer having the ability to shoot strategically. If they leave Archer Attacks at their current power they will be pulling hate constantly and dropping out of combat isn't really a reasonable solution for that.

How is it not a reasonable solution? The only thing we're talking about here is being able to attack at will, and auto attack doesn't change that. All that's changing is that you don't need to press a button to shoot every damn shot, which is a welcome change to me. If you're taking hate on ARC you need to have a word with your tank, any class can go without holding back and not steal hate.

[Kiote]

How is it not a reasonable solution? The only thing we're talking about here is being able to attack at will, and auto attack doesn't change that. All that's changing is that you don't need to press a button to shoot every damn shot, which is a welcome change to me. If you're taking hate on ARC you need to have a word with your tank, any class can go without holding back and not steal hate.

It's not a reasonable solution because Auto-Attack initiates when you target your opponent. That means, to stop attack you will have to Untarget the enemy, do whatever it is you need to do, then retarget your enemy to begin fighting again. The other solution is put away your weapon. The short time that either of those actions take will make you gimped as a Damage dealer. Your role will be officially be restricted to pulling and buffing.

Have you even considered what this is going to do to your ammo consumption? Or are you one of those people who thinks the magic infinite quiver should be implemented to?

[Viridiana]

It's not a reasonable solution because Auto-Attack initiates when you target your opponent. That means, to stop attack you will have to Untarget the enemy, do whatever it is you need to do, then retarget your enemy to begin fighting again. The other solution is put away your weapon. The short time that either of those actions take will make you gimped as a Damage dealer. Your role will be officially be restricted to pulling and buffing.

Have you even considered what this is going to do to your ammo consumption? Or are you one of those people who thinks the magic infinite quiver should be implemented to?

Actually, that's not quite right. you can have your weapon drawn and your enemy targeted without initiating auto attack. It's only when you get the "three diamonds" shape that auto attack is initiated. As such, you can be attacking, then push ESC once to cease attacking without untargeting, then push Enter later to resume attacks. Though, to be fair, you can't even buff or anything without the circle turning into the diamonds, but buffs aren't consumed by auto attack, so the only thing you should have to worry about is bind/sleep being broken.

[Buddhsie]

It's not a reasonable solution because Auto-Attack initiates when you target your opponent. That means, to stop attack you will have to Untarget the enemy, do whatever it is you need to do, then retarget your enemy to begin fighting again. The other solution is put away your weapon. The short time that either of those actions take will make you gimped as a Damage dealer. Your role will be officially be restricted to pulling and buffing.

Have you even considered what this is going to do to your ammo consumption? Or are you one of those people who thinks the magic infinite quiver should be implemented to?

Firstly, you can target the enemy regardless of whether u are engaged or not. All you do it hit escape, then you get the little circle target (and you aren't engaged) then you hit enter and you engage and the target symbol changes. This gives you full control over your auto attack without untargeting the enemy. If you're concerned about ammo consumption I suggest you play another class. The guys in FFXI who played COR without ranged attacking were useless as hell, I feel the same way about people like you playing ARC/BRD.

[Viridiana]

Ranged Auto Attack mean that Archer's will have to do either a: Significantly less damage or b: significantly slower damage. Both are not worth while in exchange for no longer having the ability to shoot strategically. If they leave Archer Attacks at their current power they will be pulling hate constantly and dropping out of combat isn't really a reasonable solution for that.

Bullshit. There's no way you're going to pull aggro just from auto attack. There's absolutely no reason you should ever pull aggro, especially not from auto attack. Learn how to play your class, and stop making comments like this. . .