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    Having played all three roles in every dungeon...yes, I support this happening. There's just a point in the game where having too low of an ilvl will make a run impossible to do. Honestly, this should have started with the ARR HM dungeons, when you had to have a min ilvl just to even get in. There shouldn't be anymore dungeons that only have a level sync. It's not fair to take a penalty because one party member is in Shire Gear still when you hit Bardam's Mettle. At some point, casual players need to be forced to keep their gear maintained - 'differing play styles' should not even be in this equation when it comes to gear in the DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    It's not fair to take a penalty because one party member is in Shire Gear still when you hit Bardam's Mettle.
    Honestly, even regular Shire Gear that is 260 is enough for Bardam's. If a player leveled through just dungeons, Shisui would only get them to 270 anyways.

    Now if you want the real kicker, go with a tank that's in Ironworks. Enjoy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Honestly, even regular Shire Gear that is 260 is enough for Bardam's. If a player leveled through just dungeons, Shisui would only get them to 270 anyways.

    Now if you want the real kicker, go with a tank that's in Ironworks. Enjoy that.
    That's talking about us, though. A lot of us on these forums generally know how to do our jobs. Not so much with DF, where there are so many bad players who go in. Not even taking CDs or usage of their job skills into account, tanks are a lot more squishier there than Shisui (especially if they pull bigger) and DPS doesn't quite hit as hard as it should. I mean, yeah, if you have an excellent healer, a good tank, and DPS who know what to do, Shire Gear is fine so long as you upgrade in Bardam's. But I've been in some brutal runs here, with players in Shire gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Honestly, even regular Shire Gear that is 260 is enough for Bardam's. If a player leveled through just dungeons, Shisui would only get them to 270 anyways.

    Now if you want the real kicker, go with a tank that's in Ironworks. Enjoy that.
    To be honest in SB I think you can't just level through dungeons using the gear you get along the way.
    For example HQ level 68 gear is surprisingly stronger than the gear you get from Doma Castle (like pretty much the same level as Genta to Genji equipment) so you'll probably need to shell out some gil if you want your runs to go as smoothly as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    To be honest in SB I think you can't just level through dungeons using the gear you get along the way.
    For example HQ level 68 gear is surprisingly stronger than the gear you get from Doma Castle (like pretty much the same level as Genta to Genji equipment) so you'll probably need to shell out some gil if you want your runs to go as smoothly as possible.
    Not really. Doma Castle gear is plenty to get smooth runs in Castrum Abania. You don't need to buy HQ 68 gear. NQ 68 gear off the vendor gets the job done better than Shire does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    To be honest in SB I think you can't just level through dungeons using the gear you get along the way.
    For example HQ level 68 gear is surprisingly stronger than the gear you get from Doma Castle (like pretty much the same level as Genta to Genji equipment) so you'll probably need to shell out some gil if you want your runs to go as smoothly as possible.
    Of course it's stronger than the ilevel 67 doma gear, because it's ilevel 68 But you don't need it for Castrum Abania.
    If you hit level 67 and unlock Doma Castle and level through til level 69, there is a high chance to enter CA with all gear of Doma Castle (if lucky even with the weapon). Doma Castle gear is sufficient for Castrum Albania and after 2-3 runs with exp bonus you'll hit 70 and get your left sided 290 job gear. There is no need to spend money for crafted gear (if you got the HQ gear through quests, then you can upgrade missing parts like the weapon).
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    Last edited by Sieben79; 12-27-2017 at 10:54 PM.
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    The Samurai stops performing any actions and takes two telegraphed aoes to the face and dies but still manages to get his final words out..

    "u dont pay my sub noob"