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  1. #1
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    At least Dusk Vigil and Sirensong Sea needs it along with whatever else is the first dungeon after a new expac because of the high ilvl variance for lvl50, 60 and eventually 70.

    The other ways to level like PoTD or synced roulettes and now alliance raids that don't need much gear or it is synced down is making the problem worse because you can just level to 70 doing those in your low level gear and not touch SB leveling dungeons so when you actually decide to go do one or get it for leveling roulette by chance your gear might end up incredibly bad.

    It is somewhat a problem with the way the game is set up. The quests are one time per character. In other games they don't usually have this problem due to either scaling gear or because every time you make a new character you can do the quests again. If you play another job on the same character on XIV you might not have the gear feeding quests anymore and you can level doing super old content and bypass the new leveling content.

    Sure you can go to MB and buy some gear, grind poetics to get gear (I wouldn't even do this tbh, seems like a waste of time for gear that is rapidly replaced), or buy from an npc but players will usually take the easy way out. Some players don't care if you are incredibly gimp if this forum is anything to go by so they probably end up not caring because in most cases no one bothers to say anything unless it is causing wipes.
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    Cakellene St
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    Gungnir
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    Samurai Lv 70
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Yes. Vendors sell the required gear all the way up to 68. It's the height of insanity to allow someone using level 60 gear into Castrum Abania where they get blasted to smithereens and don't know why. A restriction is going to at least force them to recognize what the issue is.

    They don't need to be strict requirements, but I had someone tanking Sohm Al yesterday wearing broken white level 30 boots. There's no reason that has to be a thing.
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    Futhaammah Nesro
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
    The game is all about gearing up and improving your stats through means outside of your character. If your suggestion is followed all it'll do is make a lot of people unaware of the system and being overwhelmed when they finally hit the first ilvl wall. And given how ilvl (and glamour) grind is what this game is all about, they're not going to change that system.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
    What'd be the point of gear then if you just get the free stats?
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    Futhaammah Nesro
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    What'd be the point of gear then if you just get the free stats?
    improving your character outside of the instances, obviously. you put up with maximums already, what's making the whole thing static going to destroy?
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    improving your character outside of the instances, obviously. you put up with maximums already, what's making the whole thing static going to destroy?
    Can I get a list of outside content you're doing? Besides hunts that I still seem to have trouble finding at decent speeds, I can't think of anything.

    This request is obviously targetted towards people leveling alt jobs. Main story feeds you gear like crazy. They aren't doing ANYTHING in the open world when dungeons are the fastest way. Rarely do I see them doing fates during the wait.
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    Futhaammah Nesro
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Can I get a list of outside content you're doing? Besides hunts that I still seem to have trouble finding at decent speeds, I can't think of anything.

    This request is obviously targetted towards people leveling alt jobs. Main story feeds you gear like crazy. They aren't doing ANYTHING in the open world when dungeons are the fastest way. Rarely do I see them doing fates during the wait.
    hmm...all things considered that's true. I was imagining a "first job" scenario for the most part since that's the biggest type of player that have reason to be rather clueless. perhaps players that are juggling jobs during their first run through things but that's a rather specific subset of first-timers.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I once got Doma Castle while I was casually levelling my Scholar and I hadn't gotten any upgrades uh, at all since level 60.
    Alliance roulette was keeping me levelled so fast I kinda didn't put my mind to it.

    Well sure enough I was barely able to do the dungeon properly. I felt terrible, I was such a pain holding everyone back. We did it, the tank didn't want me to leave and was very forgiving, but I still felt bad the entire run lol.
    On the flip side I do love a challenge so there was that. But yes, I do agree that some ilvl requirements would be helpful.
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