Shinryu Ex needs a nerf

[Shouko]

Why do people still insist on doing EX/Savage content with random groups instead of statics and FC's or an LS made for these specific things?

[LyraKuroneko]

Why do people still insist on doing EX/Savage content with random groups instead of statics and FC's or an LS made for these specific things?

Because not everyone can have that?

[Shouko]

Because not everyone can have that?

Why can't they? I mean if you have time to sit in a PF then you have time to make an LS specifically for raiding, grab a few people from the FC if you're in one, set up weekly schedules of when you can raid and you're good.

If people could do 40 man content back in the days in WoW with a full guild then there's no reason in this game you can't get 8 people from an LS or FC.

[Paladinleeds]

Why can't they? I mean if you have time to sit in a PF then you have time to make an LS specifically for raiding, grab a few people from the FC if you're in one, set up weekly schedules of when you can raid and you're good.

If people could do 40 man content back in the days in WoW with a full guild then there's no reason in this game you can't get 8 people from an LS or FC.

I mean I did PUGs myself, but we all joined a Discord together and grew that way. We don't have a linkshell (that I know of, host's server is different to mine), but we do use a Discord of PUGs just joining in and sticking around.

[Shouko]

I mean I did PUGs myself, but we all joined a Discord together and grew that way. We don't have a linkshell (that I know of, host's server is different to mine), but we do use a Discord of PUGs just joining in and sticking around.

Sounds like it turned into a static, which is also fine.

I'm not trying to berate anyone, but all I see is constant whining about content being too hard, or PvP is unbalanced, my class is broken I want to do more damage than this class, type of threads and it's exhausting. I know i'm whining about other people whining and I have a choice not to check the threads out but really that's all this game amounts to anymore, it's literally become WoW in terms of how players act, how players run, etc.

People just need to relax, it's just a game, you don't have to be the BIS for everything, raid for fun over gear. (yes gear is important but not worth getting angry over)

You said it yourself, back in days, it changed by now. And also because of time, i don't sit in a pf like you say, because, no, i don't have the time for it. I do PF if it fill great, if not, i give up.
And time difference between country doesn't help either. Why would people bother with horrible PUGs if we could do otherwise. We're no masochist lol

Its 7 people and I don't mean you specifically but people in general.

I know there's a time difference between countries that's why there are data centers that are closer to said countries time.

The point about WoW was if people can still manage to get 24 people for their raids every week in a guild, they don't have an LS system either, then there shouldn't be much of a problem finding 7 other people for a raid once a week. My FC has people in the EU, Asia, U.S, Canada and they all manage to find time to raid, maybe not a full static but generally the main group find a way to work it out.

[Paladinleeds]

Sounds like it turned into a static

There's like 20-30 people in the Discord. Wouldn't say it was a static lol. But yeah, it's a pseudo-static I guess?

[LyraKuroneko]

Why can't they? I mean if you have time to sit in a PF then you have time to make an LS specifically for raiding, grab a few people from the FC if you're in one, set up weekly schedules of when you can raid and you're good.

If people could do 40 man content back in the days in WoW with a full guild then there's no reason in this game you can't get 8 people from an LS or FC.

You said it yourself, back in days, it changed by now. And also because of time, i don't sit in a pf like you say, because, no, i don't have the time for it. I do PF if it fill great, if not, i give up.
And time difference between country doesn't help either. Why would people bother with horrible PUGs if we could do otherwise. We're no masochist lol

[Nerisu]

Why do people still insist on doing EX/Savage content with random groups instead of statics and FC's or an LS made for these specific things?

Because there are people with rotating work schedules and cannot commit to a specific time to do content with 7 others.

[HyoMinPark]

Why do people still insist on doing EX/Savage content with random groups instead of statics and FC's or an LS made for these specific things?

I have a static, but mine isn’t really that interested in farming ShinEx for the dog or weapons for alt jobs; a lot of them also work and/or go to school, hence why we only raid 3 hours a day, 2 days a week, cannot really set up extra days, and our raid times are quite late to give everyone a chance to get home (10pm to 1am my time). I run an FC with one other active individual in it, though thankfully we both enjoy Savage/Extreme so we do them together a lot. I also have a lot of friends on my server that have little to no interest in Savage/Extreme, or who aren’t even playing the game right now, so I resort to doing it with PUGs. Yeah, a lot of the random groups are bad, but you get some good ones occasionally.

I, however, do not want this fight nerfed. Instead, I wish this game had a better difficulty curve in it to better prepare individuals for this harder content. Then they probably wouldn’t cry for nerfs every time they encountered something the least bit “difficult” or “punishing”.

[LyraKuroneko]

*snip*

You're right. It would help a lot to have this type of content, we can see that it is not working as it is now.