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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
    1. Susano and Lakshmi's had several months of being released for people to both overgear and learn the heck out of them. This is new content, give it a while.
    2. Susano and Lakshmi are supposed to be easier. What's the point of introducing new tiers of difficulty if you'll just nerf them down to the same level as the last tier?
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteMoonMoon View Post
    I do have time.. but the play time wasted by fail parties feels annoyed and tired. Look back at susano and lakishmi, they are way less tired than shinryu
    They were also complete pushovers. Let's not make this game any easier than it already is. That only encourages more players to not care.
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Please just STOP asking for nerfs.

    Practice makes better
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    Ren Okamiya
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    I was wondering when this topic was going to come out :3

    It's supposed to be difficult, this is why it is fun. If you already cleared it 33 times without good parties, I will say it's not quite the waste you say it is
    Find some kind of static or LS but do not ask for nerfs ^^

    Thordan was (and still is) for me the best fight in the game BECAUSE my static and I sweat blood and tears on it. SB is boring overall, and shinryu I think is the fun I was waiting for.
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    What? It is pretty simple. You don't need even high DPS to beat him. People need pay attention what the wings are casting. Maybe they can make it more noticeable instead of watch to the enemy list, but nothing more.

    Also, don't worry. 3.2 will nefr it because new gear will come. Time will nerf it anyway.
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    I knew this was going to happen eventually. Quit calling for nerfs on extreme content. Seriously. Yes, PUGs are human...which means they need to get better at the content they are trying to beat. Perhaps you had a bad string of groups - maybe it's because those players are bad, have an off day (yes, it does happen), tunnel visioned, or a combination of these things. Even if they were to nerf if, your suggestions will just kill this fight and turn it into a near faceroll. No, Shinryu doesn't need a nerf, and he definitely does not need a nerf in Ex. Quit it.
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    Demielle Tournes
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    Stop calling nerfs on content that should be hard and are meant to midcore-hardcore players. If you can't do it now, wait for ilvl increase or unsync.
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    It doesn't need a nerf, but they really need to stop doing 8 man raid fights that seem to have a short shelf life when relevant, and have tons of incentive to wait for overgearing. Thordan had the same issue. There's too many perverse incentives with hard content. If all you want is a weapon for glamour and a mount, it's actually easier to do when the fight is irrelevant, which makes it harder for people to do like the OP.
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    Demielle Tournes
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
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    The is a mistake that lots of people make; to think that hard content is only for gear/glams. Only for Ilvl increase. The greatest reward for raiding content, extreme or savage, is the clear itself. That's pretty much it for all MMO's out there. People are in for the challenge, , the thrill of the fight and eventually gearing up to challenge the next content. It's pretty much how hardcore content on mmo's work.

    It actually works this way. The ones who want to do it on the appex of the content will clear it and farm straight away with the challenge. If you want easy and brainless farming (not judging, i cleared Triad extremes only on SB because i didn't want to worry about hardships back in HW), you wait. Because time will nerf it.
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    Luna Caelum
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Future patches will nerf the fight due to ilvl increase and skipping phases. As such, stop asking for nonsense nerfs where they're clearly not needed. Instead go faceroll susano and lakshmi. On those 2 you pretty much can't fail so should be perfect fights for you.
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