Is it time for relics to be the same ilevel as savage weapons?

[Sebazy]

Just trying to make a statement that its no point argue or give me a riddle or whatever against me.

My point is, raids need a carrot to motivate people. Look at how many people are still working on Unending Coil now. 2-5%? I'd be amazed if it even hits 0.2-0.5% before 4.2.

It's always been possible to hit the iLvl cap leading into a new raid tier. Making the relic the best weapon might be nice for non raiders, but it'd be bad for the game's endgame scene and long term player retention overall. That is not a healthy design decision for a subscription MMO.

[Johaandr]

My point is, raids need a carrot to motivate people. Look at how many people are still working on Unending Coil now. 2-5%? I'd be amazed if it even hits 0.2-0.5% before 4.2.

It's always been possible to hit the iLvl cap leading into a new raid tier. Making the relic the best weapon might be nice for non raiders, but it'd be bad for the game's endgame scene and long term player retention overall. That is not a healthy design decision for a subscription MMO.

nah it wont. Jeez it wont be bad. You rlly need to expand ur horizont and view things differently

[Sebazy]

nah it wont. Jeez it wont be bad. You rlly need to expand ur horizont and view things differently

Think about the influx of new players into the raid pool for a moment. Your static needs a new bard? Don't bother asking little Timmy as he is busy grinding out his relic safe in the knowledge that he doesn't need to do Savage for anything anyway.

I'm not the one missing the big picture here sir.

[Johaandr]

Think about the influx of new players into the raid pool for a moment. Your static needs a new bard? Don't bother asking little Timmy as he is busy grinding out his relic safe in the knowledge that he doesn't need to do Savage for anything anyway.

I'm not the one missing the big picture here sir.

Oki. You kinda do miss the big picture since ur only mindset is raid overall about is it worth it? and ignoring the fact that its optional.
So is relic. Dont like relic being stronger than savage tier? Say hello to anima lux.

Now i speak from my perspective and for raider i do know for a LONG time since they dont snooze into the forum.
I like doing svage because its fun and also this tier was easy bcuse i took it down faster than midas and creator era.
Some might not find it easy but that may have to do with good excuses.
But hey there is relic! Its time consuming and last in about 1/2 years to get to the last tier.
Its more time consuming and you invest time on it for each steps. Svg is all about dances and teamplay.
Its not even point of arguing back because i do know in the end of the expansion everything will be replaced.
Savage, relic, crafting, wolf etc etc is just "something" to do in this game. So dont make it sound if relics gets stronger the savage will be pointless cuse it will not.

[RenAshdoll]

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Except that the Lux series came in patch 3.55a, where majority of the raiders have already complete the last of the Alex raids and obtained their raid weapon. You completely missed his point about what happens when the hardest content dropped at the exact same time as the next relic quests; it will be meaningless for the dev to even create any raid contents since either a lot less ppl are going to even attempt it, or design the entire encounter around the highest tier weapon.