Tank dps harrasment

[Miste]

You are not even answering the question or focusing the aspect that matters most. Frequency should not even be part of the equation, you still have not answered the question where do you draw the line that it becomes a problem.

Fine you want an answer then I'll answer you. I already told you why I was ignoring your questions, multiple times, but whatever.

I always think harassment is a problem, so that is why I cannot answer you as to "where to draw the line"; harassment should just never happen, but I am being realistic that we cannot ever fully remove harassment from the internet and therefore MMOs as well. Due to my experiences I have formed an opinion that we already have it quite good and I don't know how we could make it better than now so I have nothing to add to debate with you about this.

You continually insult me just because I have an experience and an opinion you don't like so why do you expect me to actually debate with you? That is why I ignore your questions and most of what you reply to me. That should be obvious by now as I have explained this multiple times now in different words.

Still don't you see how telling someone that has gone through such abuse that it has not happened enough for it to be considered a serious enough issue to warrant the issue to be looked further into.

You just don't get it. No where did I say that people cannot ask for the issue to be further looked into. I just have my own personal opinion due to my experiences that we have already have the best we can hope for since it is pipe dream to get rid of harassment on a MMO.

That doesn't stop you from asking for what you want. I've said this before as well. Go for it. Ask for it to be looked into further. I am not stopping you and if anyone came up with a breaking news idea that would solve a lot of human interaction harassment then I would be all ears.

That is why I am focus on the frequency aspect, I am just trying to show you how heartless the comment is when it comes to harassment. I know it is your experience, but it is silly to bring frequency since that means that such abuse has to hit a threshold before it will be taken seriously. Has not happened enough to warrant resources going into further examine why such cases of harassment happen and what we can do to somewhat alleviate the issue.

Instead of coming up with ideas you sit there and insult me because of my experiences and personal opinions and continually ignore the fact I told you I won't listen to anything you say. If you had been less hostile then I would have happily had a nice debate with you, but you constantly throw negative labels and accusations at me, what were you expecting at this point? For me to happily discuss with you? lol

Now the list is: defensive, hostile, silly, undermining, disingenious/lying/pretending, and now heartless.

Gee, you really know a lot about me over text on a forum, your assessment must be accurate even though you have never met me. /sarcasm

But again do continue, I enjoy wondering what you'll label me or accuse me of next. Highly entertaining.

I already do the best I can in-game to defend people if they get harassed in an open chat where I see it and I will also report people who harass. I cannot solve your issue so stop using me as a soapbox to stand on. You can easily post all your opinions and ideas without replying to me and continuing to insult me over and over.

Just because I have my own experiences which give me an opinion about the frequency of parser harassment specifically does not mean that I do not openly denounce harassment of all kinds, because I do denounce all kinds of harassment and I always have. Being realistic though I realize there is only so much that can be done to stop it, even still I am not automatically against ideas that may help alleviate more of it.

The only line of defense people have to such abuse is to get harassed report and black list said player. So the person has to be harassed first for the tools we have in place to take effect

So what other defensive mechanisms can we think of to stop harassment dead before it starts? As an example, you insulted me multiple times thus far and while I don't consider it harassment...what could we have done to preemptively stop those insults from happening before you did it? Got a solution?


PS. In my 4 years of playing this game as a very active player in all types of content, in statics, in PF pugs, in DF, I have not seen a single instance of a player being harassed with a parser. In my opinion this casts doubt on how frequently parser harassment occurs. This makes me believe that there isn't much else to be done to avoid said harassment since removing harassment 100% is a pipe dream. If harassment of any kind happens you use the tools available to you, you blacklist, you report to a GM, and you move on and not associate with those players. We should advocate people be nice to each other of course, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to listen.

This is certainly not an issue Miste can resolve so I don't understand why you keep demanding that from her.

Thank you for helping me out by explaining this, it is too bad they still seem to think that just because I doubt the frequency due to my own experiences I am a terrible person and I should not post those experiences or opinions because they happen to be against their opinions.