Tank dps harrasment

[Miste]

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

If we want to get into technical and legal things here....FFlogs doesn't need "your" consent. They need SE's consent since all of FFXIV's data including your character belongs to SE, not you.

Nothing to do with FFXIV needs "your" consent since you do not own anything to do with FFXIV. You simply pay subscription in order to be allowed to access and use SE's intellectual property. Your subscription does not entitle you to claim ownership of anything in FFXIV and this includes your character and any data related to your character. Therefore your personal consent is not necessary at all.

[Taika]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?

[jameseoakes]

How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?

Pretty much every stream I've seen has chat covered up, same with screenshots.

[Taika]

Pretty much every stream I've seen has chat covered up, same with screenshots.

And? What if it wouldn't be? Wouldn't make it against any rules or laws, apart from maybe specific rules on certain publication platforms (such as these forums: you can't publish other people's character names here). But there's nothing to prevent me from creating a site where I post screenshots of random party chats or battle logs.

[akaneakki]

Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.

So instead of improving you want to people not to see how you perform which they will eventually and you dont perform the way they want you to then what? Going to sit back and let them do it for You?

[Xtrasweettea]

Completely off topic here, but I think I might have done something wrong in FFLOGs. Whenever I upload a parse to FFLOGs, they do not show up in Endgame Dungeon Rankings for Stormblood. Here is an example: https://www.fflogs.com/reports/CBWQXrbqg9fTD4jV (yes I know my DPS isn't that great).

Can anyone explain why I an not getting these to show? During HW I have been able to get the HW Endgame Dungeons to show rankings: https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/char.../2/#metric=dps

Thanks

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Well this thread certainly made me sit back and stare/research. Oddly enough FFlogs seems to be broken on my char (And I'm content with that :P ) - My 2 cents is this.
Tanks are supposed to tank. Period.
Healers are supposed to heal. Period.
DPS - need I say more?

Dark Knight: Spam Unleash
White Mage: Spam Cure II
Dragoon: Spam Full Thrust combo

Okay! I've done all you've asked. Period. Now where is my participation trophy?

[Dualgunner]

Dark Knight: Spam Unleash
White Mage: Spam Cure II
Dragoon: Spam Full Thrust combo

Okay! I've done all you've asked. Period. Now we're my participation trophy?

Yo stop, thats a whole combo. If you're doing anything more than Impulse Drive, you're being a tryhard. D:

[SenorPatty]

Dark Knight: Spam Unleash
White Mage: Spam Cure II
Dragoon: Spam Full Thrust combo

Okay! I've done all you've asked. Period. Now where is my participation trophy?

Joke's on your WHM, my SCH uses the /sit emote as she reads lewd magazines as my fairy slav--I mean, helps the party.

[Awha]

Snip. . .

I get this feeling you think I feel as if SE should remove tools that help players from the game, not sure why no where did I ask for that. My post was simply made because you feel as if because you do not see it that somehow makes it any less of an issue. Like I said before I hardly ever saw abuse of chat during matches in PvP, most of it was done after the match. It did happen to players while we will never know how large of a player base was effect by this behavior all we know SE took action, and I do feel SE should do something about the toxic nature in PvE. I am not trying to change your mind as to how you feel per-se but you must see how silly it is to undermine another players issue simply because you feel it does not happen enough to warrant a response or action from SE.

Having SE reach out to the people running fflogs are willing to make them opt in instead of out, and if not having it so SE makes it so the data is all personal, and only personal data can be uploaded will have little effect on the players as a whole, but at the very least will offer some form of protection to those that have issue with it. Like the chat removal in pvp, does not fix much of anything but does offer some protection and in the end that is better then doing nothing.

If we want to get into technical and legal things here....FFlogs doesn't need "your" consent. They need SE's consent since all of FFXIV's data including your character belongs to SE, not you.

Nothing to do with FFXIV needs "your" consent since you do not own anything to do with FFXIV. You simply pay subscription in order to be allowed to access and use SE's intellectual property. Your subscription does not entitle you to claim ownership of anything in FFXIV and this includes your character and any data related to your character. Therefore your personal consent is not necessary at all.

This why people are asking for SE to reach out to request FFlogs to be opt in instead of out. This choice has no impact the usefulness of the tool, and if those running FFlogs refuse then SE can look into further options such as making the data gathered only be personal as a last resort. Having that data is not going to make the player want to improve, if the player is in the bottom 20% they prob do not wish to improve and to be frank that data is useless to any outside of those wishing to mock or ridicule a player. I am not saying you personally though I just do not get why people do not want SE to at the very request that FFlogs makes their site opt in instead of out.

I mean and if they are in the bottom 20% and wish to improve their play awesome, they can use the data and work on openers, rotations etc . . .