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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirolumi View Post
    Why can't you go and play some other PvE oriented game instead?
    I wanted to highlight this, as it's a great counter to all the people that say "If you want PvP go play another game that's meant for it."

    Imagine for a moment if the devs thought that way, and frequently redirected people that want a feature in game that wasn't previously there. XIV's hosuing system isn't the greatest, but imagine if they said "If you want a good housing system, go play another game"? Imagine if they said that with glamours? We'd have a pretty dry game if not for the devs being open to what the players want.

    And like it or not, there are enough of us in this "PvE-focused" game that also enjoy PvP. More than you might think. Key word: ALSO. To redirect those players also impacts PvE, while actually offering them content to appeal to their requests hardly impacts it.
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    PvP zone in this mom is just not feasible, game mechanic and lore isn't built around concept of World PVP (it is actually ganking). People plays for reward, if no reward, it would a just going to die out like the dueling. It is pointless. If you are requesting for FF11 ballista, I am for sure 100% support it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    PvP zone in this mom is just not feasible, game mechanic and lore isn't built around concept of World PVP (it is actually ganking). People plays for reward, if no reward, it would a just going to die out like the dueling. It is pointless. If you are requesting for FF11 ballista, I am for sure 100% support it
    I have the ADS, the white ADS, all 3 GC horse mounts, all 3 Garo mounts, the Makai Master title, Hand of Mercy, Knight of Glory, and I STILL actively queue for PvP. I level my jobs via dungeons and roulettes like I always did, so I'm not even using PvP for that.

    It IS possible to actually like and enjoy playing PvP in this game for the sake of enjoying PvP. And if people want a reward, they can offer rewards. . . for people that WANT to PvP. If anyone isn't interested in PvP, or wouldn't want to venture in, then the rewards simply aren't for them.

    Want a lore reason? Here's one I came up with while typing:

    PvP Zone: Crystalline Wastes (West Shroud)
    Concept: Officially, the Grand Companies deemed an expedition into the West Shroud for any reason would be of no use, given the widespread devastation in the wake of the Sixth Calamity. But the adventurer's spirit and curiosity are as unyielding as Eorzea's will to recover from the Calamity, and the possibility of fight or fortune is hard to resist. Thus having discovered a way into the forsaken area, you now embark on a dangerous and lawless adventure, where any other adventurer can be friend or foe!

    A little imagination and open-mindedness can go a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    I wanted to highlight this, as it's a great counter to all the people that say "If you want PvP go play another game that's meant for it."
    Actually, while both arguments are heinous, one is more rooted.

    I can rephrase this many times in as many ways, but it's becoming clear that there is blinders in play here. This isn't a "each opinion is weighted equally" kind of debate. You're fighting an uphill battle here. Open World PvP is a subset of the already minority community of avid PvP Players. And we've already multiple methods of satisfying multitude of other playstyles that aren't gank-related.

    Fair group v group Pvp? We got Feast for that.
    Large group objective play? Look at all these Frontlines!
    And now we have a MOBA-alike coming.

    The one mode that we got that was a lot like roaming and ganking? (Slaughter) It got removed.

    So out of all the types of content we had, the one most like what you are requesting a massive expansion of is the only mode they flat out removed - can you see why I say the evidence is leaning one way over another?

    It already seems that SE does not wish to encourage gameplay that is only about killing another player. Which, is sad, cause I did like Slaughter as a mode. But if we can't even get that mode back, do you really think open World PvP has a chance?

    Screw the inflammatory arguments, please think of this logically.
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