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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Just thinking... if someone other uploads my data on fflogs without my consent, isn't he violating my privacy?

    I can upload my data, but other's names must be anonymous and not taken in logs. Thus, fflogs must get from the log only data from characters that have fflogs account and discard (or set anonymous) everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Just thinking... if someone other uploads my data on fflogs without my consent, isn't he violating my privacy?
    Not because they're uploading them from public battle logs having been in the same party with you. It's like uploading a screenshot from your party chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Not because they're uploading them from public battle logs having been in the same party with you. It's like uploading a screenshot from your party chat.
    In which case you should be censoring names of others. Your example reinforces their point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    In which case you should be censoring names of others. Your example reinforces their point.
    Only on these forums, since they are the rules of these forums. But I am free to have, for example a personal blog or site where I upload my XIV party chat discussions or in game battle logs. It's similar to streaming a game: you're not just streaming your own character, but everyone you're playing with.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Just thinking... if someone other uploads my data on fflogs without my consent, isn't he violating my privacy?

    I can upload my data, but other's names must be anonymous and not taken in logs. Thus, fflogs must get from the log only data from characters that have fflogs account and discard (or set anonymous) everything else.
    No? It's publicly available information even without parsers and FFLogs. Anyone in your groups or even remotely close to you in the game cans see the data that's aggregated by parsers and uploaded to FFLogs.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    No? It's publicly available information
    Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Anyone in your groups or even remotely close to you in the game cans see the data that's aggregated by parsers and uploaded to FFLogs.
    Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.

    Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.
    The data isn't private once it's uploaded. If don't want people to see trash tier numbers then set yours to private. It's that simple.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Because that data was uploaded without my consent, doesn't make it free to all.
    If we want to get into technical and legal things here....FFlogs doesn't need "your" consent. They need SE's consent since all of FFXIV's data including your character belongs to SE, not you.

    Nothing to do with FFXIV needs "your" consent since you do not own anything to do with FFXIV. You simply pay subscription in order to be allowed to access and use SE's intellectual property. Your subscription does not entitle you to claim ownership of anything in FFXIV and this includes your character and any data related to your character. Therefore your personal consent is not necessary at all.
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    Last edited by Miste; 11-21-2017 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Wrong on many levels. That data is private within the party.
    How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    How is it different from someone uploading screenshots of your party chat, screenshots of their battle logs including your numbers, screenshots of their character with your character in it, or a gameplay video of a fight including your character? How about someone streaming while they're playing Rabanastre, also showing (either accidentally or on purpose) your characters gameplay or something you perhaps say in chat?
    Pretty much every stream I've seen has chat covered up, same with screenshots.
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