Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
And yet the culmination of all of this back and forth is still the pro-tank DPS side of the 'debate' literally doing the thing that pages ago we largely argued did not occur - dismissing someone based purely on their fflogs.

I have argued for parsers, for healer DPS, for a general sense of responsibility that every member of every party should have about any content they run. People have called me an elitist, they've told me to 'get off my high horse' and 'casual players matter too!' literally since I joined this forum.

I have been accused of being the kind of person who would take someone's fflogs and use it to justify public disrespect despite never doing anything like that. I argued back that no one was really that low and that my 'opponents' were exagerating their claims for how scummy the playerbase could be about using these tools to enforce or support their standards.

Now I have to go and eat my words because I guess I'm wrong, this sort of bs does happen. Super disappointed right now, also kind of ashamed.
I think mostly everyone can largely agree that randomly bringing up someone's FFLogs is uncalled for unless it was brought to attention prior (by the person themselves). Someone's opinion shouldn't be made lesser just because "oh I happened to look at your logs," especially when that person did not claim to be the best at their class and/or the game, or mention their logs at all. Even if FFlogs was somehow officially supported, I just feel like it's a weak and/or an argument that's a bit too personal, if not a bit underhanded. When comparing it to one's own logs, it just sounds like flat out bragging or attempts to undermine someone else. I have already said in this thread in the past that FFlogs is mostly just used as something to inflate egos, or more appropriately, a ****-measuring tool. So of course it happens, just like it happens with parsers. It just doesn't happen in volume.

I was mostly defending that while they were rude in their stance, Kaldea did not say the post was meaningless.