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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    "Anyone can tank a boss in DPS stance!" or "Anyone can weave DPS in with healing!", normally followed by..."...and if they don't, they're being lazy!
    Shinryu is an example: Healers I've met who don't dps doesn't heal tank fast enough or the group, yet they didn't cast anything else but we tanks die. The irony they don't dps. Tanks who doesn't go in dps stance while tanking doesn't bother me much, but what bothers me is they spam aggro when it's truely not needed. Yes everyone CAN tank without tank stance and healers can dps. It doesnt matter if its 800 to 1k or even 500, they tried and thats okay. Once they get more used to the fight, they probably squeeze in more. Why is that for example the WHM I had in shinryu earlier did 1.6k dps and SCH did 118 yet the whm healed MORE than the SCH? Explain.
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    Alexandr Nocturne
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Shinryu is an example: Healers I've met who don't dps doesn't heal tank fast enough or the group, yet they didn't cast anything else but we tanks die. The irony they don't dps. Tanks who doesn't go in dps stance while tanking doesn't bother me much, but what bothers me is they spam aggro when it's truely not needed. Yes everyone CAN tank without tank stance and healers can dps. It doesnt matter if its 800 to 1k or even 500, they tried and thats okay. Once they get more used to the fight, they probably squeeze in more. Why is that for example the WHM I had in shinryu earlier did 1.6k dps and SCH did 118 yet the whm healed MORE than the SCH? Explain.
    Shinryu normal or EX? My post specifically mentioned casual content. That's excluding EX/Savage. Did you fully read my post? I specifically mentioned so long as everyone lived, and the tanks held all the mobs. Yet, you make an example where people die. Your reply addresses nothing in my post. Please reread my post, I think you misread some or all of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by demonette View Post
    Lol "expertise." You make it sound as if this is some sort of complex task. We're not talking 1%u0025 min-maxing here, there is a difference. Here's the steps to tank without tank stance.

    1. Pull the boss and whack it.
    2. Press the button for tank stance.
    3. Use the same abilities you would normally use.
    Congratulations, you are now tanking without tank stance.

    If your brain somehow can't handle pressing one more button, once in a fight, (and somehow I highly doubt that) then just find another hobby. Please stop pretending everyone's this dumb and teach basic accountability.
    Well, in this case it seems the answer to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    But what if, honestly, that is the best they can do? What if they can only play an hour a day, and haven't ground roulettes to tears? What if they struggle to keep up, not through laziness, but rather circumstance? Should we say, "Yeah, you kept aggro the whole way, but if you can't handle dropping into a DPS stance and adding some damage, you should GTFO!"? Or, "Yeah, nobody died, but if you can't handle adding a bit of DPS go find another game!"? Maybe, "I don't care if you're in your 60's and your fingers are arthritic, your DPS is sh!t! Give up and take up needlepoint, grandma!"?
    ...is "Yes, absolutely!" >.<

    I never said, as you put it, "everyone's this dumb". I said multiple times in fact that there are some people slacking, phoning it in, and I don't support that in the least. It looks to me like you just skimmed my post before firing off a reply, rather then actually reading through it properly.
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    Last edited by Xerek; 11-17-2017 at 08:31 AM.