Tank Stances, Traited

[Dio_Tiferet]

That's not true. If using tank stance allows the same overall raid DPS (Just spread differently), then it's just a personal preference of you (and the healer) as who should push its DPS while the other only focus on its core responsibility.

50% mitigation on tankstance would break the entire game and everything would be easy so no bad idea.

Also if tankstance wont make a dps difference then there is no point in having it in the first place.

The situation you are describing is simply put unrealistic.

[Reynhart]

50% mitigation on tankstance would break the entire game and everything would be easy so no bad idea.

No. Having lots of mitigation doesn't help you kill things or deal with mechanics...in case the current state of tank stance hadn't proved it already.

[shao32]

Also if tankstance wont make a dps difference then there is no point in having it in the first place.

Actually if tank stance dont have any negative impact on dps It Will be work extremly good to keep the agro and mitigate damage plus being able to be balanced with new mechanics in the future.

[Dio_Tiferet]

Actually if tank stance dont have any negative impact on dps It Will be work extremly good to keep the agro and mitigate damage plus being able to be balanced with new mechanics in the future.

You cant balance things around the future in a game that already has like what 4-5 years worth of content?

The stuff you guys are asking for would only be reasonable if all the content got changed to match it.

[kidalutz]

Paladin already has a higher defense in generally because of the addition of the shield thusly they wouldn't need as high a defensive bonus. However i would go with 15% instead of 10 just to make them a viable and still attractive alternative to the warrior.

[Reynhart]

Also if tankstance wont make a dps difference then there is no point in having it in the first place.

Playstyle preference. Some tank are more comfortable playing it safe.
And I'm pretty sure more people would both play in Savage and play tanks if they knew they can focus on their job as long as they're paired with an "agressive" healer.

The stuff you guys are asking for would only be reasonable if all the content got changed to match it.

No, you just have to look at tank's DPS in and out of tank stance and healer's DPS and tweak the stance little by little until those two compensate.

[shao32]

You cant balance things around the future in a game that already has like what 4-5 years worth of content?

The stuff you guys are asking for would only be reasonable if all the content got changed to match it.

Figths are already desing on tanking in tank stance, reynhart change yeah Will need more that just tank stances chamges, but mine? Not really.

If SE want us to tank in dps stance they just have to change tank stances to be a ogcd more with emity bonus, but they keep this punishing desing how in the actual status is more punishing for PLD/DRK for no reason

[Aana]

Leave tank stances alone!

In most of the game tank stance is encouraged. Even 'pro' tanks use tank stance for dungeon pulls. In mid level content (not cutting edge primals etc) Tanks have a playstyle choice. They can go hard and no stance for the epeen damage, or play it casual and safe. The content isn't hard enough to require the mitigation or the DPS check bonus. SO play how you like. This even applies to savage. My group often uses tank stance because the safety net is more important than deeps at our ilvl. The only place this doesnt apply is world 1st/1st week style clears of new content (and ultimate). In those situations you are undergeared as a group and need to do more damage so you make that damage via no tank stance. Its an expression of skill at that level because less skilled players wouldn't survive with so little gear.

Outside of that extreme cutting edge, tanks have an actual CHOICE to use or not use depending on their group, skill, and general preference. Stop trying to force your preference on everyone else. We have choice now. Don't $&%# it up.

[MauvaisOeil]

Leave tank stances alone!

In most of the game tank stance is encouraged. Even 'pro' tanks use tank stance for dungeon pulls. In mid level content (not cutting edge primals etc) Tanks have a playstyle choice. They can go hard and no stance for the epeen damage, or play it casual and safe. The content isn't hard enough to require the mitigation or the DPS check bonus. SO play how you like. This even applies to savage. My group often uses tank stance because the safety net is more important than deeps at our ilvl. The only place this doesnt apply is world 1st/1st week style clears of new content (and ultimate). In those situations you are undergeared as a group and need to do more damage so you make that damage via no tank stance. Its an expression of skill at that level because less skilled players wouldn't survive with so little gear.

Outside of that extreme cutting edge, tanks have an actual CHOICE to use or not use depending on their group, skill, and general preference. Stop trying to force your preference on everyone else. We have choice now. Don't $&%# it up.

I don't get this obsess you show in numerous post asking for no change except thoses you want, and refusing other's ideas if they risk threatening your own pleasure you show as "What the game is, and is for".

Each one's pleasure is just a matter of personal preferences, for yours and for the others, and the choice you call could only be called a true choice if the risk wasn't so much inferior to the reward.

[shao32]

Stop trying to force your preference on everyone else. We have choice now.

sorry but you are worng on that and is not about impose my opinion over yours, but there is absolute no choice when we are talking about tank stances, or you tank in DPS mode or you are playing poorly, is that, tanking on DPS stance is far more efective that tanking on tank stance, there is not exist any argument against that, if bot stances have a efective performance, and i dont mean in terms of dps, then of course it will be have choices but for now one is god and the other is trash, to have real choices tank stances have to be at level of dps stances somehow.