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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The definition of what is considered "Pay to Win" has changed over recent years.
    Can I click a love not like button for you? With no 100% set definition currently for pay2win(advance), the one side defends the corporate coffers. The other side vilifies the casual or lazy (perspective).

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    I still don't get why people need a load of retainers. I'm not a hoarder, i'm fine with 2.
    With some basic game play and 8 max retainers you can maintain a very profitable gil flow. 14 hours a week spread over 2 hours a night from hunts/dailies/retainers/solomaps is usually a solid million/week on Balmung but it is boring. Now remember they have hinted that some sort of phone app for retainers. How many times a day you touch your phone? Lets say you can get in at least 12 venture cycles, that works out to 96 a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    So biggest reason is hoarding again. Because you can generate enough income with 2 retainers.
    The ability to have 160 slots so you can sell items in stacks of less then 10 is way greater then hoarding. You get extra gathering mats and literally sell for more then HQ if you sell 1 at a time. If they ever change the system so people can buy one out of a stack at a time, I am screwed. Also won't need the extra MB space.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 11-02-2017 at 12:08 PM.

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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Can I click a love not like button for you? With no 100% set definition currently for pay2win(advance), the one side defends the corporate coffers. The other side vilifies the casual or lazy (perspective).



    With some basic game play and 8 max retainers you can maintain a very profitable gil flow. 14 hours a week spread over 2 hours a night from hunts/dailies/retainers/solomaps is usually a solid million/week on Balmung but it is boring. Now remember they have hinted that some sort of phone app for retainers. How many times a day you touch your phone? Lets say you can get in at least 12 venture cycles, that works out to 96 a day.



    The ability to have 160 slots so you can sell items in stacks of less then 10 is way greater then hoarding. You get extra gathering mats and literally sell for more then HQ if you sell 1 at a time. If they ever change the system so people can buy one out of a stack at a time, I am screwed. Also won't need the extra MB space.
    I made and could make enough gil with 2 retainers, so 8 is obviously not necessary exept you keep every single item that you got and maybe if you cap every retainer with gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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