Black Mage

[IllyriaKnotfred]

The only reason I'm ok with BLM right now is because honestly I feel this is the most fun our job has ever played. But yeah, we have to work much harder than the other casters. We are penalized for mechanics to insane levels comparatively. If we want to do absolute optimal dps our healers need to be willing to babysit us so we can tank mechanics, not stack if not needed etc. We bring absolutely nothing to the raid except what is supposed to be our "superior" dps. But now we don't even have that.

[Demoniun]

The only reason I'm ok with BLM right now is because honestly I feel this is the most fun our job has ever played. But yeah, we have to work much harder than the other casters. We are penalized for mechanics to insane levels comparatively. If we want to do absolute optimal dps our healers need to be willing to babysit us so we can tank mechanics, not stack if not needed etc. We bring absolutely nothing to the raid except what is supposed to be our "superior" dps. But now we don't even have that.

Work much harder than other casters? Do you have at least SMN or RDM at 70? Cause i can agree RDM is easy to play, but w/ SMN you have to manage dots, SF, aetherflow stacks and DW trance. BLm is only a Fire IV spam and refresh when you finish MP. Ultimate Savage is only unfriendly content for BLM, but Deltascape tier is BLM friendly (maybe less O3s).

[Dualgunner]

Work much harder than other casters? Do you have at least SMN or RDM at 70? Cause i can agree RDM is easy to play, but w/ SMN you have to manage dots, SF, aetherflow stacks and DW trance. BLm is only a Fire IV spam and refresh when you finish MP. Ultimate Savage is only unfriendly content for BLM, but Deltascape tier is BLM friendly (maybe less O3s).

Sure it's BLM friendly. I would argue most fights far more SMN friendly if the numbers are anything to go by. In fact everything is. Summoners made the other two casters unneeded. There's no point to taking anything but a SMN into Ultimate; you can take rez dispenser RDM into Savage but if your group is good take SMN instead it offers far more. Poor Black Mage doesn't even have the rez dispenser title for that. It's outdamaged both with personal DPS and rDPS by SMN in every single fight.

[Maero]

Smn has many advantages over blm, mobility just being one of them. They have utility+higher damage now, blm history has shown always ends up at the end of the stick (ARR, HW and now SB)
Players are not arguing that blm rotation is more complex, we just have more involved to optimize our dps then all other jobs, and given the fact that all blm brings is raw damage and it is currently lower then smn and Sam... well yeah it's broken

[Shiroe]

Work much harder than other casters? Do you have at least SMN or RDM at 70? Cause i can agree RDM is easy to play, but w/ SMN you have to manage dots, SF, aetherflow stacks and DW trance. BLm is only a Fire IV spam and refresh when you finish MP. Ultimate Savage is only unfriendly content for BLM, but Deltascape tier is BLM friendly (maybe less O3s).

o4s is NOT blm friendly

[Lelila38]

o4s is NOT blm friendly

The only omega savage fight that doesn't feel awful on Blm is o2s. O4s is the worst, far too much movement.
Still, I'm not complaining about that. I like Blm specifically because it's not faceroll easy to max dps on the hard fights. But it's no longer rewarding when you're doing well and are still out dpsd by the other jobs. If I got the fight down as a Blm and manage to play it close to perfection, me and my party should be rewarded by high numbers.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

Work much harder than other casters? Do you have at least SMN or RDM at 70? Cause i can agree RDM is easy to play, but w/ SMN you have to manage dots, SF, aetherflow stacks and DW trance. BLm is only a Fire IV spam and refresh when you finish MP. Ultimate Savage is only unfriendly content for BLM, but Deltascape tier is BLM friendly (maybe less O3s).

Anyone who says BLM gameplay is "Only FireIV spam and refresh when you finish MP" obviously has no idea what they are talking about. There is absolutely more to the job and anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand that.

[Llugen]

Babysitting a class is not viable at endgame

Classes that bring nothing (yes, -nothing-. You say BLM doesn't need a raid buff probably in the ilk of "raw damage is utility" but damage IS utility, as outlined before) are not viable at endgame.

Classes that struggle to deal with movement/mechanics efficiently (losing the majority of damage due to movement) are not viable at endgame.

BLM is not viable at endgame.

[Komaru_Tatoro]

Anyone who says BLM gameplay is "Only FireIV spam and refresh when you finish MP" obviously has no idea what they are talking about. There is absolutely more to the job and anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand that.

^like he said. ppl have no idea how trying to keep enochian up for polyglot is a pain with the limited timer of af/ui. depending when you drop it it could be a matter of waiting 20s more enochian and another 30s for polyglot for foul.
dropping enochian is akind of losing around 300-500dps. your blm have to be on top of the game if he wants to hit hit dps.
now tell me, as a smn, clipping or putting the dot 1-3s early/late will it equated to losing 300-500dps?
i undertand smn has alot of dots going on but is it as punishing like dropping enochian? (dont talk about deaths as every class will drop dps when they die)

[KumiKuzumi]

If you're gonna compare dropping enochian to something a smn can do at least make it a comparable argument. Like using aether flow with 3 stacks of trail completely wasting it. Mistakes are mistakes. You shouldn't be dropping enochian and you shouldn't be summoning bahamut right before a phase transition