Black Mage

[IllyriaKnotfred]

BLM is fine and really fun. I do so much damage and no one has kicked me for playing BLM in high-end or hardcore content like expert dungeons and susano/lakshmi.

I'm sorry but Susano/Lakshmi and dungeons are not considered hardcore content. That title is for Savage.

[Remedi]

Ok serious talk about a possible magic weakness added to our rotation.

I think it could work and honestly should be added by now to balance out with melee weaknesses also the more I think about it and the more it fits in the selfish dps style while also beign a rdps boost

Doesn't fix all the problems, also still phisical dmg will rule because of no other support (and let's be honest LB too) but it would be a start

[Lelila38]

Ok serious talk about a possible magic weakness added to our rotation.

I think it could work and honestly should be added by now to balance out with melee weaknesses also the more I think about it and the more it fits in the selfish dps style while also beign a rdps boost

Doesn't fix all the problems, also still phisical dmg will rule because of no other support (and let's be honest LB too) but it would be a start

I'd love to see that. Been saying that for a long time. Even Sam can boost its own dps, only fair if they give us a tool to do it too.
Could be tied to Umbra Hearts, while they're up Blm gets a magic dmg buff.

[Remedi]

I'm thinking more of a proper debuff on the target like 45 secs that makes him taking 10% more magical dmg

Let's say applied by B4 to give it some oomph I think we discussed about it in the past

[IllyriaKnotfred]

45 seconds of 10% more magic damage? Seems kinda much

[BlackcatChen]

And most of these arguments are pointless or redundant.

BLM just needs more personal damage for a raw DPS job without party buffs, regardless of playability (which is fine, but that's subjective), or mobility (which can be learned and optimized as needed)

This is actually an identical problem that BLM had from 2.0-2.2 funny enough. Summoner beat it in personal DPS (therefore raid DPS), and Black Mage only had it beat in AOE. Apocatastasis was trash, but a second traited Virus was very useful. There was no point to BLM in raids (other than T4) when SMN existed. Guess what happened in 2.3? Fire, Fire III, Blizzard III and Blizzard had a potency increase of 20, and Apocatastasis was made useful. Source: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...582d59335acd84 When you think simple potency buffs can't help a raw DPS job, look at those 2.3 buffs. Sure, the meta of this game is very different than it was then, but this is definitely not a difficult issue to solve.

[Holocyll]

Completely agree with above post. I've mained BLM since 2.4, and I honestly love the job.

About 2 weeks ago my static disbanded, and since then I have not been able to find a static, and have barley been able to even pug in PF.
People are actually auto locking BLM out of pf groups just so they don't have to deal with them. This is on Aether, and I've seen it more and more lately..

Potency buffs are really all we need for the most part.

I probably wont be able to get into a MC or higher static now, so I really, really hope SE see's this thread..

[Remedi]

The point of adding a magic vulnerability debuff on B4 is: to give a dmg boost to BLM and passively giving some raid utility to the BLM( while also making B4 worth casting)

Mind you won't be enough to kill the ranged meta but it might give some alternatives like a SMN +BLM comp

[Komaru_Tatoro]

Nope, that's why i've only good % lol. Before speaking, maybe check what other ppl do, like i did w/ you about SMN and RDM.



As i said upper, check before talking. And tell me, why you have to refresh manually Enochian? Can't you use like transpose and after swiftcast/blizzard III/Blizzard IV and go dps again instead to loose Enochian (and polyglot counter)? Maybe i play in a different way than 90% Black mages, or 90% BLM do wrong stuff?

tell me how can you tranpose in a shinryu ex qte??
tell how can i keep my enochian going when i have to lb3 in o3s during nin/gaint add phase if im the only caster???

now within the same condition, tell me how much smn/rdm dps will drop compare to a blm?

but seriously im not picking you but the typical blm rotation, switch af to ui or losing 1 f4 for 1 f1 or even using up a swiftcast sometime equate to a dps lost because its not optimal. now where as other caster what other consequence will be similar to blm losing dps because the need to switch or upkeep enochian?
it takes practice to a degree to learn how much f4 you can fit until next mechanic.
but im curious, how much dps lose if smn waste a baha during phase change compare to blm losing enochian? any1 that played smn to a certain degree tell me?

The point of adding a magic vulnerability debuff on B4 is: to give a dmg boost to BLM and passively giving some raid utility to the BLM( while also making B4 worth casting)

Mind you won't be enough to kill the ranged meta but it might give some alternatives like a SMN +BLM comp

reminds me of how i miss raging strike

[KumiKuzumi]

Then don't lb. Make your ranged do it. Problem solved. Caster lb is the worst by far out of all of them. Teach your pugs that ranged lb is superior because of the shorter lock duration. It provides greater dps than a caster lb. If you're lbing as a blm you're doing it wrong