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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Allow me to step in on the PvP bit (...)
    I think you misunderstood me there. I have absolutely nothing against PvP. I just made an example out of it, because many people are either strong PvP or strong PvE players, so it would be understandable to the most people at once. I then said that the same blanket statement can be done about PvE and pretty much anything.

    The fact that it is a ridiculous statement and should never be used for anything is the exact point I was trying to make with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    There is one issue with this solution, effective healing is dependent on the performance of the rest of the group.
    I know that. However, it was a "solution" to a specific problem, where players supposedly kicked the good healer for lack of their DPS, just because they didn't see that healer did their fair share, but in healing. If there is effective healing, then clearly there were people wounded. If a healer healed, let's say, 100 000HP in a fight where the tank have 25 000HP, then the tank would have died four times over if that healer wasn't there, and no one with a level of intelligence higher than a 1st grader would think they were kick-worthy just cause their DPS was 50% of the healer that healed 5 000HP.

    Parser is just an advanced calculator and there is no going around the fact that as an advanced calculator, one needs to have basic level of awareness as to how it works. A poorly used tool is the users fault, not the tools. Hence the tool cannot be blamed for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    The best suggestion I've seen is a personal parser. Since there's really no need to see what everyone else is doing, that would work perfectly for everyone.
    It wouldn't for reasons that were stated no later than the second page. That being said, I never said whether the built-in parser would need to be party or personal. I couldn't care less, since the reason I want a parser to begin with is for me to get better at what I play. I could see other people?! Nice. I couldn't?! No loss there, really.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Here's another suggestion, worry about what you do and not everyone else. If you are that worried that someone will mess up your perfection, make a static of other people as good as you are and go.
    Perfection doesn't exist hence I cannot be worried about it being messed up. Besides, I am too worried about not playing effectively enough and not having the time or patience anymore to do the time-consuming, boring work of calculating stuff as I did in the past in different games, hence I cannot really play as well as I'd like to make it easier on those others, to worry about their performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Also, by attacking Lazruz you are proving the point that this topic makes people act like jerks.
    "Attacking" and "act like jerks". Sorry, but what am I supposed to say?! It was the ninth page and I had 11 posts before her (including the original one), clearly, quite exhaustively, explaining how I am making an attempt to deal with the issues of parsers, only for her to come out and imply that I'm an egoistical jerk for suggesting parsers implementation without caring about their negatives.

    That is an extremely disrespectable thing to do in my eyes. And despite that, I provided arguments as to why his/her post is wrong. Something that person failed to provide to begin with.

    Rather than grade people into "good" or "bad" based on whether they want something or not, consider their individual methods of making those points (or not, just writing whatever). As some people on both sides here have proven, disagreeing most certainly does not need to be offered in a disrespectable manner.
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    Last edited by kikix12; 10-27-2017 at 04:00 AM.