Built-in Parsers

[Ilan]

There are pro's and con's. The raid group i was part of always said who was highest. I was normally... but 1 person didnt like it. So he was ignoring mechs for being nr1. Dont ask me why... some people always have that.

I can see it as tool for improving people. But like with every tool people will use it as weapon.

And again that 1 person was a plain idiot.

People will always find something to use as a weapon and i wonder why it shouldn't work here if it works in games with way worse communitys, not to mention that quite a lot people already use a parser anyway.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

If people die to mechanics or mess them up because they have to check the overlay they are plain idiots and they would get distracted by any shit anyway. Don't blame the parser for that.

Oh the parser's just a tool. Blame the craftsman. People die for all kinds of reasons. I personally have a team that parses, but manages to stay focused. If I could say that about everyone, that'd be great. As it stands however, we're dealing with people who had trouble managing buffs and debuffs in one location on the screen, thus gauges were added, and people who legit thought the same hotbars they used in PvE for PvP was "too much" (this is a general statement, not aimed at anyone". For that reason, we might as well not add to the on screen clutter, yes?

That aside, I retain my previous statement that I'm in no way hindered or at a loss for being on PS4 and not being able to parse. If my team can stay alive, handle mechanics, and deal enough damage to clear content (and no, I'm not talking bare minimum, so let's shoot down that rebuttal right now), that's all that matters.

[Stormfur]

As a PS4 player, I don't feel the least bit disadvantaged by not having a parser.

constantly parse checking, which I've unfortunately seen too many people get distracted by and pay the price for.

This is true. That's why I'd rather have a little screen at the end of a fight telling me how well I did. At least I'll know 1) I'm on the right track or 2) I need to improve. I don't want some kind of overlay. I have enough stuff on my screen to look at.

I don't feel disadvantaged since I know my rotation and such, but I'm not going to turn away a tool that could help, either.

And on that note, I'd love Reshade on the PS4. Those graphics are gorgeous.

[odintius]

Don't care if they added them but currently you really just need to be well geared and know your job rotation. The only place paser should be used if implemented imo is the actual hard content outside of that their pointless and we're most the complaints about them come into play. /Shurgs

[PureSteel]

I see both sides of this argument. For me people using pareses has helped me improve my raiding skills. I didn't seriously raid until storm blood. I joined a static and every week I use my last week's raid pares to compare my progress and to strive to obtain better numbers while mastering machanics. I'm in favor of the parser. But I agree people should be given the choice whether they want to run with a group using it.

[PureSteel]

Also you can't fix what you don't know is broken. Maybe if they don't want players to use parsers they should remove enrage timers.

[PureSteel]

Also you can't fix what you don't know is broken. Maybe if they don't want players to use parsers they should remove enrage timers.

[Zarabeth]

For the 17,845th time. They are not going to put a parser into the game. All the threads in the world aren't going to help because they know what toxicity parsers lead to. Just read the forums to see how people treat others on here. Parsers lead to even more of that crap. Move on already.

[Lazaruz]

For the 17,845th time. They are not going to put a parser into the game. All the threads in the world aren't going to help because they know what toxicity parsers lead to. Just read the forums to see how people treat others on here. Parsers lead to even more of that crap. Move on already.

"Oh stop with the victim attitude. Parsers are completely fine and never cause any issues ever except every MMO ever who fully allowed it proving otherwise"

- Typical Pro Parser argument


As for me, yes I'll agree the fundamental problem is not the parser itself, but people being incredibly toxic, I still cannot fathom how on earth it makes sense to still allow people acess to the thing that is known for causing such a toxic community (Although then again the US is still wrapping its head around gun control). Yeah sometimes it does suck that the majority gets punished for the actions of a few, but creating thread after thread after thread on this topic and in various ways just completely shutting down the concerns of the other side instead of actually adressing them, just makes people like OP seem like petulant kids throwing a tantrum because they cant have their favourite toy in the way they want.

If you want a parser so badly. Play on PC and use ACT.
If you're not on PC then no, the game is litterally built around parsing software not being required, and trying to pretend otherwise is silly in the extreme

Untill the day those advocating for parser software getting official implementation are able to even remotely entertain the opinion of the other side, then there's no point in even discussing this further as it's just gonna devolve into a shouting match

[bswpayton]

"Oh stop with the victim attitude. Parsers are completely fine and never cause any issues ever except every MMO ever who fully allowed it proving otherwise"

- Typical Pro Parser argument

well when someone ask for a personal parse for themselves then what would be the argument for the otherside exactly?