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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
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    You're overestimating how much gil is added to the game at any given point. It is hard to farm gil on FFXIV and no, crafting doesn't count as farming gil. Farming gil is anything that makes the game create more gil. So gathering also only counts if people sell directly to vendors. There are very few ways to have the game create gil and they all either give low amounts (killing mobs), have a hard cut off (leves), or involve doing content with others (FATES and Instanced content).

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    No but it has affected greatly affected the game economy. This alone is enough of an argument against it.

    SE can and should come up with other and better gil sinks than this.
    The game economy in WoW was affected because it's ridiculously easy to make gold there by killing mobs. The game itself has many more avenues of gold creation than FFXIV has for gil creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    The game economy in WoW was affected because it's ridiculously easy to make gold there by killing mobs. The game itself has many more avenues of gold creation than FFXIV has for gil creation.
    Hmm I wouldn't agree with you there. They may have more types of quests that generate gold, but the gold generated from their crafting and gathering can't compare to the amount of gil it generates in FF.
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    Don't forget WoW players get a lot of gold from their mission tables. We have Retainers, but we can't do half a dozen Ventures at a time (unless you pay for extra vendors).
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    being able to buy gil with real money would make earning gil in-game feel unrewarding , which would also make crafting feel unrewarding

    that would kill the game for me
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    Why are you talking about "P2W".

    Win what ?
    You can clear any type of content and be poor.
    The game gives many way to get gear easily without spending a single gil.

    Doing roulette, dungeons and quest are a sufficient source of gils to allow repairing, tp and such primary function.

    So sorry but, no, the game won't be suddenly a "pay to win" because you'll be able to purchase money.

    If one day, they sell Gear set with an ilvl above the one in game, then yes, that day, it could because pay to win.

    But not by bying money.

    HOWEVER, aside of that part.
    I'm not particulary into that. I prefer our current system. It's fine as it is. There's already plenty of way to make money easily so...
    No need to copy everything Wow does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Why are you talking about "P2W".

    Win what ?
    You can clear any type of content and be poor.
    The game gives many way to get gear easily without spending a single gil.

    Doing roulette, dungeons and quest are a sufficient source of gils to allow repairing, tp and such primary function.

    So sorry but, no, the game won't be suddenly a "pay to win" because you'll be able to purchase money.

    If one day, they sell Gear set with an ilvl above the one in game, then yes, that day, it could because pay to win.

    But not by bying money.

    HOWEVER, aside of that part.
    I'm not particulary into that. I prefer our current system. It's fine as it is. There's already plenty of way to make money easily so...
    No need to copy everything Wow does.
    Housing (extreme)... nuff said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Hmm I wouldn't agree with you there. They may have more types of quests that generate gold, but the gold generated from their crafting and gathering can't compare to the amount of gil it generates in FF.
    Crafting and gathering don't generate gil unless the items made or found are sold to a vendor. The market board does not generate gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Housing (extreme)... nuff said
    Gaining more gil wouldn't make you win Housing (Savage). I have enough gil for a house and I still don't have one. Having enough gil for one doesn't mean you'll be able to get one. Unless you're speaking of the against TOS housing market. In which case that matters as much as people selling or buying gil.
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    Seriously why do people want so many WoW features in this game? It doesn't matter what it does for WoW, it is still WoW stuff and should stay there. Just go play that game if you want all those features that badly.

    That said, this will and should never happen, more than it already has with Tales of Adventure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Seriously why do people want so many WoW features in this game? It doesn't matter what it does for WoW, it is still WoW stuff and should stay there. Just go play that game if you want all those features that badly.

    That said, this will and should never happen, more than it already has with Tales of Adventure...
    Just because WoW does something doesn't mean it's bad.

    And this is completely different than Tales of Adventure. This is about people being able to buy game time with gil.

    Hmmmm. Me saying that got me thinking. Maybe there should just be a gold sink where people can spend gil for game time. That way people who don't have a lot of money to spare can play but it also won't create any of the issues people are worried about.
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