Black Mage

[NovaLevossida]

Ah, I see. And I do agree with you, ATM balancing for 4-man is stupid. But if/whan savage level 4-man comes... Well, we'll see.

That's the dream, isn't it? I'd love to do some 4-man stuff that had some more to it.

[Sfia]

It is true that BLM is absolutely the best thing to take for dungeons.

I disagree, I'm pretty sure the tribind changes have made SMN the strongest pick here now.

[Remedi]

Dmg wise flare spam probably has more consistence that tribind since that is connected to a CD

[popotaro]

I disagree, I'm pretty sure the tribind changes have made SMN the strongest pick here now.

No.

10char

[Solwolf45]

I feel as a BLM im getting more strong as I progress through the game, not being outclassed by my other DPS rangers. Hwowever, I am only lvl 53 atm and i just got to HW content, so tbh, I probably have no clue what im talking about XD. I will wholeheartedly agree BLM needs some PvP help. I tried my first match as a MCH and ACTUALLY KILLED SOMEONE. Ive had like.. Maybe 2 kills as a BLM. As for the PvE content, I really do feel im getting stronger. But as other have said, at the end of the day, its the nostalgia of being a caster of dark arts that really drives me to play the class, even if im now expecting a gutting once I hit higher level content lol.

[Llugen]

BLM is very strong in PVP I’ve had 17 kills before, but that’s another whole ballgame.

[Sfia]

Dmg wise flare spam probably has more consistence that tribind since that is connected to a CD

And dungeons have a LOT of downtime, if we were to have another fight similar to A2S then their contributions would be similar, but as it is summoner AOE is the strongest for dungeons in the game.

No.

10char

Would love to hear why you believe this.

BLM is very strong in PVP I’ve had 17 kills before, but that’s another whole ballgame.

Yeah, PVP and PVE balance are now completely independent of each other, so not worth bringing up here.

[Remedi]

It remains binded to a CD outside of that SMN aoe isn't improved much, while BLM aoe still is just as free as before

that aside, Llugen what are your thoughts on our teamplate in pvp? You think would work in Pve too?

[Kabooa]

And dungeons have a LOT of downtime, if we were to have another fight similar to A2S then their contributions would be similar, but as it is summoner AOE is the strongest for dungeons in the game.

A2S had a possibly unintentional effect of allowing vuln banes to spread that enhanced damage, effectively making them superior in aoe on that specific dungeon.

Overall a Black Mage will still have the advantage in dungeons, but Summoner will spike higher. The Black Mage will have the full suite of tools to deal with trash packs while a Summoner, depending on the party, may have to alternate between Aetherflows and Dreadwyrms if the tank divides a set of enemies into two packs.

A black mage can also ignore most mechanics in dungeons if the healer / tank is on board with it, so none of that 'moving out of the way' and 'dying because deeps' happens.

[Sfia]

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Virtually everything I talk about in this is discussing from a point of perfect execution on the black mages part, keeping full uptime.
Even without vulnerability baning, SMN was superior in that fight, their AOE was simply better in HW.
And now it is at that point again, where dungeon packs will die before SMN aoe damage drops off, and the large amounts of downtime mean thier cd gating does not matter. Not to mention the ability to bio on the move to contribute damage while pulls are happening.