When dps dont aoe should they just get kicked from the start?

[Cylla]

That is a wrong bias to have. For a long time I can't tell names apart esp when I do not play the jobs. I know how to heal, and I know when a tank has too much damage so I may comment "shield oath" regardless who the tank was. (Now I learned the names a bit better from playing them, but the war stances are too alike for me to type out so I just say go tank stance when there is a need to)

So basically "I would rather have people know how to play their jobs over knowing the exact names of things"

rest what you said is fair though, cept holmagang being last resort, it can be used more freely when knowing they are pulling big.

I just posted actually on this in more detail. I mean yes, I can say it wasn't my last resort option but it was all that I had left. Suppose no matter how I look at it as stated above, I was going to die because the healer wasn't using anything but cure II to try and keep me alive through a large pull.

Also I seriously think she honestly did not know the difference between the two jobs. Not a name issue. When I look at her lodestone she only had a 70 WHM. When she started going off about how I stood in three AoE, I tried to tell her, "Yes, because I had holmgang up and couldn't move." and when I said, "Now let do this my way and pull one pack of mobs at a time." she went into a fit and started saying, "Maybe you should put oath up." Yes, my Defiance was up 100% of the time. RDM in the group corrected her and said, "She's a WAR." "Maybe you should've used your defense cool downs." "I did, I went through all of them." It went back and forth until I finally just threw my hands up, stopped and said, "vote kick me. I'm not dealing with this anymore." We tried to explain it, she just wasn't getting it through her thick skull. So yes, to me having at least some knowledge of all jobs, at least your tanks as a healer would be nice.

*Small Edit - I will never claim to be a pro war, pld, or drk. I only tank dungeons and that as far as I'll go, or old content. But when I've cycled through all the cool down's I have and there nothing up but holmgang, that what I hit in the hopes that the healer would toss me a big heal and I could cycle back through my cool downs. Maybe this is a bad train of thought but it never failed me until that day.