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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    The person is moaning about inventory issues and doesnt even have gatherers and crafters at max level.
    Correction: I have MIN at max level, and am actively levelling (and using) the other DoL/H, as well as desynth, don't discount inventory issues based on levels.

    What MiraKershaw is trying to point out is that you say that inventory bloat is something that only happens to lazy people with poor space management, yet you actively pay to have 4x as much retainer space as me, I don't think you pay for that just to have different retainer glamours.

    I will hold my hands up and say that maybe I can do more to manage my inventory, sure I can throw out some glamour items, maybe throw away some crafting mats that I saved for later, but ultimately why should I be required to? This QoL change is nothing but good (in concept, the mail thing has some iffy execution), and means that I'm not constantly under pressure to keep my inventory empty. I have had days where I spent the day crafting (especially on CUL), and the 20 free spaces I had I didn't notice were full, it happens to everyone, and it shouldn't need to be a problem.
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Correction: I have MIN at max level, and am actively levelling (and using) the other DoL/H, as well as desynth, don't discount inventory issues based on levels.

    What MiraKershaw is trying to point out is that you say that inventory bloat is something that only happens to lazy people with poor space management, yet you actively pay to have 4x as much retainer space as me

    I will hold my hands up and say that maybe I can do more to manage my inventory, sure I can throw out some glamour items, maybe throw away some crafting mats that I saved for later, but ultimately why should I be required to? This QoL change is nothing but good (in concept, the mail thing has some iffy execution), and means that I'm not constantly under pressure to keep my inventory empty. I have had days where I spent the day crafting (especially on CUL), and the 20 free spaces I had I didn't notice were full, it happens to everyone, and it shouldn't need to be a problem.
    I pay for 6 retainers because I want too and have OCD issues. None of my retainers are even half full. I have them because I sort them by crafter (arm/bsm, ltw, wvr, alc/cul, crp, and gsm) I never said you were lazy, I said that you are hoarding items. There is a pretty big difference. ANY mmo, since the beginning of time of MMO's (and I have played them starting with UO) has inventory issues as far as a hoarder is concerned. Trust me, I used to be just like you, I had 2 retainers FULL OF GLAMOUR..yea, just glamour lol. When 4.0 hit i said enough is enough.

    Why can't I discount inventory issues based on level? I've been there, I know what leveling to 50 and then to 60 and then to 70 is like and just like i said in my original post. You are doing it inefficiently.

    As far as leveling your crafting it really is as simple as I said. Obviously there are a couple inside questions you need to ask yourself. Are you leveling DoH/DoL for personal? Monetary? Both? Most people its both in which I say, know your market. Find what you want to partake it and thats what you hoard. The rest is bloat as far as your needs are concerned.

    Me for example, the market where my main is (this is an alt account) Is great on consumables (food/pots) and the odd food item that is a pita to get. So that is what I play to.

    The bottom line is simple, you need to let go of nonsensical stuff. Old items from level 50 and below have very little worth compaired to items 60+ and all this stuff you are hoarding is why your retainers and inventory are full.


    Now, I am not by any means saying that the inventory system in final fantasy is great. It's not, and we SHOULD be given more than 2 retainers (base retainers should be at LEAST 3, hell maybe even 4) with all things considering. I dont think it would change much for you though (or anyone like us), because a hoarder is still a hoarder. You will magically find a way to run out of space again (been there too lol)

    You need to go through your retainers and get rid of all the stuff from 50 and below and just sell it on mb, vendor, or trash it. only hold on to the rare glamour piece that is hard to get (which shouldnt be much tbh)

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    This is exactly how I see it. It's unfortunate people just see the OP's personal inventory issues as the reason why we should not have this QoL
    Because it's a terrible idea, you can hold a max count of 25 iirc (im not in game to check) in your mailbox. For someone that cant manage their own inventory when you are LOOKING AT IT ALL DAY. Do you really think this is going to fix their problem? Newp it wont. How do you NOT know when your own inventory is full? there is this UI piece that has all these colored dots showing what space is left...


    Look, I'm tired of inventory issues too. i'm tired of having to hold on to ANY glamour items whatsoever. (where is my glamour catalog) And i'm tired of them using "server strain, server load time, server insertrandomfirstserverproblemhere" as an excuse. They definitely need to step it up. But suggesting a terrible idea is still...... guess what? .... a terrible idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    I've played a few MMO/MMORPG's lately and they always have either a tab or NPC for loot you cannot receive in your inventory. To see something like that in FFXIV would be nice.
    Now THIS, is a great idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    The bottom line is simple, you need to let go of nonsensical stuff. Old items from level 50 and below have very little worth compaired to items 60+ and all this stuff you are hoarding is why your retainers and inventory are full.
    Who are you to say how I play the game though? I do still use items from level 50-60, whether it be for levelling desynth, or unlocking new masterbooks, but that is massively irrelevant to the discussion. What I have to say to your rampant commenting on my playstyle (I hate using that, but when it comes to how I manage my inventory, I can play how I like, this isn't group content) is so what? It has no bearing on whether this feature should be implemented, and like I said before, it brings nothing but good (and i'll reiterate, in concept - I don't like the mail thing).

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    Now THIS, is a great idea!
    We are finally on the same page, can we please get back on topic now since we are in agreement?
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 09-22-2017 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Who are you to say how I play the game though?
    Just offering a solution to your problem as it will be more helpful than waiting on some random QoL feature that will never be implemented. You can play how you want, just don't complain about something you have control over yet refuse to control it. #stopthehoarding
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    Just offering a solution to your problem as it will be more helpful than waiting on some random QoL feature that will never be implemented. You can play how you want, just don't complain about something you have control over yet refuse to control it. #stopthehoarding
    As I mentioned it's funny people go in expecting they won't win anything, and it can be up to 4 pieces in O2S-O4S, plus page.

    The "you don't pay my sub" types can keep hoarding and lose weekly loot. Or they can wise up and be raid-ready to win.
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