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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    You are only looking at this from your point of view.
    That's how everyone sees things. You included.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    All they did was ask a question which the other person can reply in a civil manner, or simply ignore if they really want to.

    It is only accusatory if you choose to see it that way. It might not be the intention of the person writing it at all so you are making a baseless assumption.
    When you know you have a chance of something you say being taken the wrong way, when it's been explained to you by more than one person here why that particular approach does not often work - and your own experience has born that out - why are you still defending it?

    and if that comment annoyed you, I have made my point.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    That's how everyone sees things. You included.
    I actually meant you are only looking at it from your point in view in the case that you didn't know that some people may have reasons for not using certain spells or abilities and not because they don't know they are there so it isn't actually a pointless thing to ask someone that sometimes. If you didn't know that then now you do.

    Actually I am not only seeing things from my point of view. I am advocating that we shouldn't declare someone guilty without knowing their actual intentions. A question alone is not inherently a rude or a bad thing nor is it accusatory (as long as the person asking is neutral/polite/general and not using insults, name calling, or harassing language)

    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    When you know you have a chance of something you say being taken the wrong way, when it's been explained to you by more than one person here why that particular approach does not often work - and your own experience has born that out - why are you still defending it?

    and if that comment annoyed you, I have made my point.
    Uh...I think you have severely misunderstood something here, because no I am not annoyed, but I am confused at your response.

    The point I am trying to defend is that harassment should never be okay. I am saying that someone who may pose a question like that might be completely innocent and not intending to upset anyone. So maybe people should not harass someone for that simple question. I mean I can put out a scenario I suppose to try to help you understand what I am trying to say.

    Person A is helpful, she likes to help others, she has fun chatting, anytime she wants to help someone she has the the intention of doing it just to be nice and to be helpful and zero malice.
    Person B is in a DF with Person A and is doing a mechanic very incorrectly (just going to make this in general so any mechanic fight or job related)

    Person A nicely and politely asks Person B if they understand the mechanic.
    Person B answers rudely and harasses Person A with insults.

    So...what person B did was okay in your eyes? Because that is the scenario I am saying shouldn't happen, yet I've seen it happen. So I don't know what point or argument you are trying to make here.

    I am defending and advocating that if someone poses a question or suggestion to someone else if they are unsure of their intentions they can easily ask a question back instead of getting defensive and throwing insults at a person who may have just been trying to help out of kindness. How they word it isn't the problem because the person has the option to ask for clarification and see where it goes from there.

    I mean people jumping to negative conclusions just circulates more hate and malice, why would we want that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    If someone asks you a question and you are unsure of their intentions you can simply ask a question back to judge the situation better instead of immediately getting defensive.
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    Last edited by Miste; 09-13-2017 at 03:26 PM.