Did you know not performing as you think another player should in a group

[ArcanoJones]

If a BLM is doing mostly Thunder spells, with an occasional low potency nuke, that run is going to take longer than an extra 2-3 minutes. The BLM in question was asked why they were playing the way they did and basically told the party to buzz off. They were underperforming and didn't care. In my book, I'd call that getting carried.

I imagine there is more to it than that. People tend to exaggerate the circumstances of things to make them self look in the right. Thats human nature. I never take either sides account as total truth.

[Khaidal]

I imagine there is more to it than that. People tend to exaggerate the circumstances of things to make them self look in the right. Thats human nature. I never take either sides account as total truth.

Oh my sweet summer child.

Wait til you get to cap and have to farm experts for tomes.

[Cenerae]

I imagine there is more to it than that. People tend to exaggerate the circumstances of things to make them self look in the right. Thats human nature. I never take either sides account as total truth.

No new player is going to look at BLM and think 'Oh, I should be using lots of thunder magic, along with Scathe and Drain!'. They're either going to be stumbling along with mp management by overcasting Fire spells and being stuck waiting on a mana tick after Transposing, or convincing themselves that only using ice magic is better because they won't run out of mp.

Nobody is going to spam thunder magic out of ignorance, and I'm surprised you're trying to defend that sort of behaviour.

[ArcanoJones]

No new player is going to look at BLM and think 'Oh, I should be using lots of thunder magic, along with Scathe and Drain!'. They're either going to be stumbling along with mp management by overcasting Fire spells and being stuck waiting on a mana tick after Transposing, or convincing themselves that only using ice magic is better because they won't run out of mp.

Nobody is going to spam thunder magic out of ignorance, and I'm surprised you're trying to defend that sort of behaviour.

Who is defending it I am simply saying there is no way to verify that the guy never casted any other spell. Or whether this guy is being completely honest about his story of this person. And if the group never wiped because of it. It simply doesn't matter anyway. DO you know every single spell that every single member in an 8 man group casts. Or even a 4 man. Are you that aware of what every single person is doing every single second. I doubt it.

[MoroMurasaki]

Who is defending it I am simply saying there is no way to verify that the guy never casted any other spell. Or whether this guy is being completely honest about his story of this person. And if the group never wiped because of it. It simply doesn't matter anyway. DO you know every single spell that every single member in an 8 man group casts. Or even a 4 man. Are you that aware of what every single person is doing every single second. I doubt it.

As a healer who plays AST quite a bit I pay a ton of attention to the DPS in my group to see who I should buff the damage of with cards, it is 100% possible to spot this sort of behavior without a parser.

Whether or not this situation was real is a moot point, if it was real it was handled correctly by the party. Offer advice, get dismisdive or rude response, kick offending player.

"Not wiping" is not the only measure of success for many players. We are not wrong because we want to be improving and doing better.

[ArcanoJones]

Yes not wiping is the only thing that matters. Again a person who seems to think what he wants is all that matters. And I point out again which you seem to be ignoring if the group is through the duty finder then new players should be expected. And you should not expect expert play. If you want that. Find your groups in another way.

[Tanathya]

Yes not wiping is the only thing that matters. Again a person who seems to think what he wants is all that matters. And I point out again which you seem to be ignoring if the group is through the duty finder then new players should be expected. And you should not expect expert play. If you want that. Find your groups in another way.

Apparently what you want is all that matters. You're forcing everyone to think that not wiping is all that does indeed matter. Well think again, and if you play poorly, expect to be kicked the hell outta the group, enough is enough. Don't like it? Play an offline game.

[Khaidal]

Yes not wiping is the only thing that matters. Again a person who seems to think what he wants is all that matters. And I point out again which you seem to be ignoring if the group is through the duty finder then new players should be expected. And you should not expect expert play. If you want that. Find your groups in another way.

You sound like you'd defend the scholars who would auto follow the tank and let the fairy heal the dungeon. They weren't wiping, so by your definition it's ok. Their enjoyment is letting everyone else finish the run while they watch YouTube. Why should 3 out of 4 people in a run have to do their job while one person gets a pass?

[Khaidal]

Who is defending it I am simply saying there is no way to verify that the guy never casted any other spell. Or whether this guy is being completely honest about his story of this person. And if the group never wiped because of it. It simply doesn't matter anyway. DO you know every single spell that every single member in an 8 man group casts. Or even a 4 man. Are you that aware of what every single person is doing every single second. I doubt it.

Actually, depending on how you have your chat filtered, you can check your battle log and see what others are doing. On top of this, you can look at the party list and see what spells people are casting.