Did you know not performing as you think another player should in a group

[Tanathya]

Advice is great..DO it my way or your out of here is not advice..

You're massively missing the point here.

[ArcanoJones]

You're massively missing the point here.

No I'm not. The opinion I hear from several people is if you slow them down from doing dungeons even though its there choice to do them and they are using the duty finder which the reason it even exists is to help new players they are going to kick you from the group. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not talking about a person who causes the group to wipe several times. I am simply talking about a person who is not playing as efficiently as people think they should.

[MoroMurasaki]

No I'm not.

You are missing the point though.

If you had a tank or healer playing with a similar level of ineptitude to the aforementioned BLM a dungeon would basically become imposdible to clear. Mind you they are just as "new and deserving of a chance" as that BLM.

Would you kick them so you can clear or wait out the full 90 minutes of the dungeon and get basically nothing for your time?

Don't dodge the question with some pointless talk of "but feelings" either, I want to know if you would wait 90 mins for nothing just to avoid kicking someone who was playing poorly.

[Paladinleeds]

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Here's the thing, most won't kick right off the bat. A lot will try to advise on how to improve, and if they refuse to take the advice, THEN they will kick. If they're trying to take on board the advice but struggling, people will usually let it slide outside of Savage/Ex Primals, because at least they're trying. And yes, "Playstyle Difference" is a valid reason to kick. Most players know the DF is a roll of the dice what you'll get, but there's a certain level of performance people will expect from you if you want to stay in that group. Want to derp around being a "Thunder mage"? Ok sure, but take it to PF and state it from the outset. Having trouble performing due to disability? Ok, no problem, just give us a heads up, we'll accommodate. Not 100% sure on the class/duty? Not a problem, let's help you out, just let us know. Yes, you get the odd jerk that is "my playstyle only or kick", but most will give advice and help find a middle ground that is efficient, but doesn't need to be perfect.

Most are willing to give a chance if someone is struggling. Heck, I hate kicking, but if someone gave me the "my sub my way" comment on being given advice, you bet my patience will run thin and I will accept a vote kick prompt that appears. The advice I give is given in a constructive way, that explains a better way in a "Have you tried this?" situation. I also explain why it is better. I give it in a "You may have missed this" tone, which if they don't realise about it, they'll appreciate it.

[Snow_Princess]

No I'm not. The opinion I hear from several people is if you slow them down from doing dungeons even though its there choice to do them and they are using the duty finder which the reason it even exists is to help new players they are going to kick you from the group. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not talking about a person who causes the group to wipe several times. I am simply talking about a person who is not playing as efficiently as people think they should.

Only time I seen that an issue was to new healers during late 2.0, otherwise the case of that happening now is very rare. I suspect it is from premade kick abuse when that happens. I seen it a few times but it is def a lot more rarer then compared what new healers had go though while game was late into 2.0, where people expected you be in i120 gear.