I think you're misunderstanding the quote as a whole? /shrug
The bolded sections emphasise where Yoshida acknowledges healer DPS and suggests that it should be a choice between the party and the healers themselves. I really can't stress this point enough.Originally Posted by Yoshida
He isn't actively talking against healers DPSing and I strongly suspect the comment about healers spending an entire dungeon in cleric stance was a reference to how SCHs quite literally could spend 80-90% of an expert roulette in cleric stance. I highly doubt that's got any relevance to 8 man content at all due to the 'entire dungeons' bit and it's definitely something that was clearly addressed in SB dungeons with both a heavy handed SCH nerf and an overall increase in incoming damage throughout SB's dungeons particularly on large pulls. I also suspect his disdain for cleric stance and any discussion about it was down to the fact that it was a bodge by a team that didn't really know how to handle healer DPS and he knew it.
This all tallies up pretty nicely with what we have right now no? O1S and O2S are both readily dooable right now with 0 healer DPS, O3S is on the cusp with a months worth of upgrades and I imagine a lucky group with 4 solid DPS and maybe a few dots from the healers should be able to get the job done in time. O4S isn't happening just yet tho, I've been pugging and helping other groups over the last couple of weeks, ~24k raid wide DPS is still a tall order for most and in my eyes the healers need to be contributing at least 1k each to get a clear at the moment. That's not a particularly hard number to hit so meh. Once this tier's 24 man raid rolls around and people are approaching iLvl 340, I suspect NeoEx's DPS check will be reasonably forgiving in the same way that A12S was opening the entire tier up to more casual groups that perhaps don't have the same level of healer DPS and optimisation on tap. Again I ask, where is the problem with this situation?
I do agree with the view that that the class team seems to be in a bit of a mess over the direction and design of healers currently. But the content itself is pretty impeccable considering what they've got to work with.



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