How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

[eschaton]

The ps4 argument is extremely funny. Imagine PC users are saying PS4 users need to 'improve' based on numbers generated on PC setups? PS4 user; if you really, really, really want to play as a PC player, get a PC with a Logitech Gaming setup and all. You'll reach those numbers in no-time, promised, and you'll get mechanics called out by the same program, and you can use /shout chat to tell people everything is 'too easy' and stuff.

A SE made number-shower on a PS4 will never let you reach PC parse numbers, on the contrary, you'll be thinking you are doing 'bad' even when you are doing 'fine' or even 'great'! You cannot compare those numbers on different systems / setups and what is available to those systems software and hardware wise. Comparing oranges and apples never made sense. Never.

IF there was a PS4 parser it should be completely separated from the PC one. And guess what? You'll see the different results. Let's guess if this will result in toxic discussions, or not?

So if SE would make a parser there should be separate ones for each system, also the 'extra' options can't be available to just one or the other. Will the PC version be blacklisted? Will they add savage mechanic call-outs and other tricks to the PS4 version? It all doesn't make sense. At all. Can't you guys see why this is a grey area? Are you really that dense?

Pffff... well to be a little constructive still, the worst you could do now on PS4, as your whole 'improvement' group or even 'improvement' guild won't be playing on ps4, is asking a PC parser-user-player in your group / guild to see where your numbers are low 'relatively' speaking in a fight (as he/she can't use a direct comparison to any PC numbers), then you can 'improve' on that rotation / mechanic by doing it over and over again, and he/she will confirm that you did do better. Basically tell you what you already knew, for that situation you thought you needed a parse, and move on. The best thing you could do now on PS4 if you want to reach those PC number rotations; get a bloody PC with gaming hardware, install your Logitech Gaming stuff, install everything else needed from google, and reach those numbers while watching anime. Much love and have fun. <3

[Taika]

A SE made number-shower on a PS4 will never let you reach PC parse numbers

What is your logic behind assuming PC and PS4 players would get different types of numbers? Some of my raid groups' best ranking players have been PS4 players...

[Dualgunner]

You have no clue what you're talking about do you? Got any evidence...ya know, at all, that ps4 players perform worse as a whole compared to pc players?

[eschaton]

What is your logic behind assuming PC and PS4 players would get different types of numbers? Some of my raid groups' best ranking players have been PS4 players...

You have no clue what you're talking about do you? Got any evidence...ya know, at all, that ps4 players perform worse as a whole compared to pc players?

Oranges and apples. If you want to compare those and ACT smart, go ahead.

[Dzian]

Parsers are useless.

They're not useless when used correctly.

What parsers are, are great big books full of information and detailed breakdowns of many many things within a fight.

The problem is the general community never actually bothers to read that big book. Instead they just look at the front cover that has there dps on and make all there judgements just on that front cover.

Which goes back to what I said earlier. And is evidenced by people that ask for just a personal parser or just a dps number at the end of a fight. They think they can make an informed and accurate judgement on only a fraction of the Information.

They don't want to read a great big book of information and understand why that number is what it is. They just want a shiny front cover with that number on it. Even if they have no clue what it really means or how to correctly interpret it.

I'm all for adding parsers in the game. But when and only when the community learns and understands what a parser really is and does. Which is why my current standpoint is a big NO. Because the community just doesn't know what parsers are and what they do. As evidenced by those who repeatedly ask for just a personal parse because they think that just seeing maybe 2% of the Information a full parse provides is enough to paint a full picture.

[Taika]

I would love an official parser that would show everyone's DPS and HPS, but also number of deaths, damage taken, overhealing % and so on. I would also love for it to give each player a score that would be affected by the aforementioned things: a DD would get high score from good DPS and taking as little damage as possible, a tank for DPS + mitigated damage, and a healer for HPS and DPS and minimising overhealing.

[Dualgunner]

Oranges and apples. If you want to compare those and ACT smart, go ahead.

That's not an answer to the question.

[HyoMinPark]

That's not an answer to the question.

They can't provide an answer because they don't have one. They'e just talking out of their you-know-what at this point. And trying to push their anti-parser agenda by making stuff up. Why on earth would PS4 parsers give different results from PC parsers if SE implemented a universal FFXIV parser IN-GAME. It would be the same in-game HUD element. Why would it give different results based on platform. Makes zero sense. PC parsers sometimes give varying data, but nothing hugely significant (unless ACT is configured different/not allowing network data parsing, or being blocked by a firewall or anti-virus--and at that point it's just improper setup on the user's part).

What are you even talking about?

I don't even think they know.

[Kling-Klang]

Oranges and apples. If you want to compare those and ACT smart, go ahead.

What are you even talking about?

[Rawrz]

So you are cheating and your friends, because someone calls out the mechanic for you all? Okay gotcha.

In creator our WAR had a trigger that could call the Random patterns for A11s one second before visual cues. That's a whole extra second for position adjustments. Like.... How can you hold a high ground over something that's cheating so blatantly?

If my static had someone who could make call outs like that without a trigger, he or she would be a precog and have their own Lifetime movie network special.

But again, again so long as SE doesn't add an in game parser, It's something that the community has to deal with in order to keep having a second hand parser from PC players.